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Waddell Families in Shotts
« on: Saturday 21 January 12 15:57 GMT (UK) »
I'd be interested in any evidence to link together the various families named Waddell (Waddel, Wadel, Wadell, Waddle etc) in Shotts in the 18th century.

James Waddell and Christian Bryce were in Easter Baton, and had five children: William 1765, Janet 1767, James 1770-1788, John 1773, Christian 1775-1825.

John Waddell and Mary Cowan were in Newhouse/Sighthill/Springfield and had 12 children between 1804 and 1831. Their eldest son was James, and their second daughter was Christian. John's age in the 1841 census was 65. I would be interested in anything to support or refute the theory that Mary Cowan's husband was the son of Christian Bryce.

William Waddell and Agnes Thomson were in Mains of Fortissat. They had two known sons, James 1792 and John 1800. In 1841 William was living at Redmire with his son John and family, and his age was given as 75. He was buried in Shotts in 1843, age given as 78. I would be interested in anything to support or refute the theory that Agnes Thomson's husband was the son of Christian Bryce.

James Waddell and Alison Gramare (could this be Graham? And in her son's death certificate it is given as Crombie) were in Mountcow, Shotts, and had six sons: William 1781, James 1783-1858, Peter 1786-1858, John 1789, David 1792, Alexander 1796/7. Is this a second marriage of the widower of Christian Bryce, or a different James Waddell altogether?

Also, are the following baptisms, both from Shotts Parish Register, two listings for the same child, or two different children?
First: 1789 James Waddel in Mont Cow and Gramare his lawful married spouse had a Son born there upon the 10th July and Baptized Named John Waddel.
Second: 1789 James Waddel in Monknow and Helen Cromar spouse had a child born the 18th July and named John.
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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 January 12 17:01 GMT (UK) »
I have some but not all MIs of Shotts kirkyard.

James Waddell, Mountgow & his wife Alison Cromby.   Their son Peter died 2nd December 1858 aged 72 years.  (His wife Isabella Thomson died 15th December 1901 aged 93 years.  Their sons Peter, died 15th June 1915 aged 72 years & William died 11th March 1928 aged 86 years).
In the next grave -
In memory of James Waddell, Mountgow, Shotts who died 1904.  His widow Margaret Sommerville Marshall died 1926 aged 86 years.  His daughter Mary Isabella Sommerville died 1885.  His son James, Stenton, St Monan’s Fife died 1906.  His daughter Elizabeth Anne died 26th December 1959.

Also, a picture that you will already have no doubt.

Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 January 12 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. I didn't have either the inscriptions or the photo.
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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 January 12 20:39 GMT (UK) »
At least the MI confirms the name as Cromby (Crombie), always something.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 January 12 23:59 GMT (UK) »
At least the MI confirms the name as Cromby (Crombie), always something.

Yes. That is very useful. Though how the clerk made 'Crombie' into 'Gramare' will remain a mystery to me.
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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 January 12 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello Forfarian,
I saw the name Waddell in your post. I'm not all that familiar with Scotland's geography so forgive me if I'm not even in the ball park of Shotts. I have a Mary Waddell born 16 Aug 1836 in New Monkland, Lanarkshire in my family tree. Her father was James Waddell, 1801-1873 and her mother Elizabeth (1805-1858). She married a John Marshall 10 Dec 1858 in Stirlingshire. Does she fit anywhere in the Waddells that you know?
Just curious,
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London and Middlesex, England: Loft, Hughes, Walker, Eades, Phair, Hubbard, Bull
Ayrshire, Scotland: Currie,  Gebbie
Argyllshire, Scotland: Clark, McDonald, McCorquodale,
Lanarkshire, Scotland: Allan, Smellie
Renfrewshire, Scotland: Lang, Jack

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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 January 12 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nan

This Mary Waddell was my 4th cousin twice removed. I know quite a lot about her family, but I didn't know whom she had married. Do you have any more information about her descendants? I'm happy to exchange notes.
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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 January 12 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello Forfarian,

My relationship to Mary Waddell is tenuous at best. She was the mother-in-law of my great aunt. I'm not sure how much info you would like. I do have the names of her children, census records, d of d. I also have information on her son Robert who married my great aunt and the names of their children. If you want all the information I have, let me know and I'll send it to you. I type rather slowly so it may take me a few days.

I also remembered that I have a Ann Waddle born in 1761 in Cadder Lanarkshire (not related I believe to the Mary above. She married a Matthew Smellie 4 Apr 1782. What are the chances that there is a distant relationship there as well?

Kind regards, Nan

 
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Ayrshire, Scotland: Currie,  Gebbie
Argyllshire, Scotland: Clark, McDonald, McCorquodale,
Lanarkshire, Scotland: Allan, Smellie
Renfrewshire, Scotland: Lang, Jack

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Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 January 12 15:32 GMT (UK) »
I'll PM you.
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