Mary Strawberry b Desoronto, Ont 1865 d Flower Station, Ont 1947

[J.J.]

Some spelling of St. Pierre in 1901
1901  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jyo/   and  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jyp/
In 1911 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jyq/  and http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jyr/

Will continue to add some spellings I have found: Saint Pierre, Saint Peirie, St Pierr,
St Perre (transcr.Perce)  St Pear, St Purr,
Samfier, Sanfiar, Sampear, Sampare, Sampere, Sampier, Sampeir, Sampir, Sempere, Semper, Sempier
Simpear, Simpear, Simper, Simpierre, Symper, Sympere, Santpier, SanPier, Sanpiar, Sampierre
Lampier, Lampierre ( read on for reasoning)

[J.J.]

Might be Febe in 1851 although Gower township, Carleton
with no father in household transcribed as Gerba, but written Gerbo on image and says place of birth "F" so just marked French ( French Canada or just ethnicity?) http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SplitView.jsp?id=1434
Joseph 23
Febe    18
Mary    58
Dulfuss 29 ( Delphis in 1899 m. of son Francis JARBEAU*, Palmerston http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/north99.htm )
  Harriot 23
  Harriot 3
  Roselie 2
( Boselle*?)says age 1 but also marked as labourer???
 ( Jeremie LAFRAMBOISE & Euphemie JARBEAU* son Bazile's marriage )

* also used Garbeau, Gerbeau 

[polarbear]

Hi again.

You might check if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition. This would give you access to all the images of the Ontario BMD records we are turning up. Barring that, if you are near a Family History Center (the familysearch.org folks) they may have Ancestry as well. You can check for locations on their website.

There is a family tree on Ancestry related to the Jeremiah Laframboise found earlier by J.J. It has the marriage of Mary to Angus Sampier (as Lampier) but no record of her death. There are quite a few source citations but the records themselves are not available to view so caution would be advised (I tried to find a few of the cited records but was not successful). Feby is entered as Euphemie Jarbeau. So it looks like Mary Garbo in the 1871 census posted earlier might be her mother.

I think you might also have access to this tree if you are able to access Ancestry.

As mentioned earlier, Mary Burgeno might easily be the Mary Jane Burghknew (oh, the spelling horrors is right!!) who was witness to the marriage of John and Mary Anne. I have tried to trace her and her sister forward without success at this point, both in the next census and for marriages.

[J.J.]

For anyone wanting to look for the origins of the census stray Mary & Maggie in 1871 household ( images reply #30) other variations for this name are  Birchnough, Berchnough, Birchenough, Berchenough, Berchenow, Burgnew, Bercheneau
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Further to polarbear's find... Also saw a birth 1879  Palmerston parents Frank Lampierre & Matilda Laframboise. The capital "S" must look like an "L" ...so this has happened before in the transcription...Ugh... Lampier and Semfiere?? What next?
 

[elmfield]

Thanks, both of you, for this "sea" of information which will take me a while to absorb.

[elmfield]

I have now had chance to put some of this amazing stuff down on paper ( I am of an age where paper works better than does a screen)

Polarbear came up with a time line but it would appear Mary Laframboise died before any of Angus's surviving children were born...I have William b 1888 d 1983 as the eldest ( my Grandad). Family tradition has it that one brother had married but left his wife with his brother to go out "West"....It seems entirely possible that with his first wife,  Mary, dead Angus took in his sister-in-law Mary Alexander... whom his brotherJames/John? had  previously married. If that is the case then did Mary Laframboise have any surviving children?

I am intrigued with an apparant Gerbo/Gerba/ Gerbeau connection especially as we have a 74 year old of that name living with the Laframboise's in the 1871 census and could the  witness to John Sampierre& Mary Ann Alexander's wedding...a Mary Jane Burghknew be the Mary Burgera in the St.Pierre's 1871 census for North Crosby?

You have both gone to a deal of trouble for which I thank you. I always knew my family was "complicated" but it's far more complicated than that.

[elmfield]

My G/Grandma...Mary...Strawberry/Laframboise/Alexander/Long? Photo taken late 1930s


Sorry I am struggling to attach the 'photo!

[J.J.]

 Elmfield will try a couple more things and I'll help if need be...Look at the last reply before this one for the image...She will put it in there eventually. Learning curve.

I am going crazy looking for Mary Long/Alexander...Trying to call others in for the challenge.  Mind spinning and too many notes to keep track of.... There is a 6 month old Mary with a Richard and Mary in the right place in 1871, wondering if they got age wrong... and can't find them in 1881, but am too tired to look further into 1891 to see if the couple is there...they may also have moved away. Have looked at most Mary Long and they seem accounted for..but may have missed some...Also looked for Song...
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1871/001101-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=1098681
There were Alexanders in Camden Addington, so not a far reach...also methodist, as were the Alexander family


The little Jane long from the 1871 I found living with the burning family...Although out of district she's aboriginal and without family... will try to follow her next so far... i can't see her in 1881. So many avenues to follow.

[J.J.]

The Patriarch for the Alexanders seems to be a Samuel born circa 1799 Ireland...although I can't see earlier households than the 1871 to confirm this, so may not be related at all... http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1871/001101-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=2728287&interval=20&i=jpg
I am wondering if one of the Alexanders married a Long or had a child with a Long out of wedlock (even may have passed away?)...all between 1861 and 1871. Frank Stewart ( Frances?) may turn out be a brother to Stewart rather than one and the same person?
Can anyone please look into 1851 and 1861 census Camden Addington to see the Alexander household

These are the Wesleyan baptisms where there should be some children from the older generations but just one Kennebec Frontenac birth for Samuel Jr. Perhaps not a place of worship nearby back then? Would they have used an Anglican church then?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm
Grasping at straws but you never know http://www.lennoxandaddingtonhistoricalsociety.ca/StLukes.html
cemeteries
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/archival-records/interloan/cemetery-lennox.aspx