BROOKS, John - Sutton Coldfield

[ecochicnz]

I am undertaking some research for a friend, and am stuck on some conflicting information regarding John BROOKS's parents, and I am hoping someone may be able to help with some definitive evidence.

John BROOKS married Dorothy FAULKNER, 10 Nov 1794 Sutton Coldfield. This information is fine, and I have all their children too, no problem.
BUT there is conflicting information regarding just which John BROOKS it was that married Dorothy and had all the children with her.
John no. 1 - born 5 May 1774 Sutton Coldfield, christened 6 May 1774 Sutton Coldfield.
(regardless of which John it is, he died 2 Nov 1828 Sutton Coldfield)
father: Francis BROOKS born 1737 Sutton Coldfield
mother: Anne MALLABAR
siblings: Ann, Fan, William, Amelia, George, James, Bessy

John no. 2 - born 5 Apr 1771 Sutton Coldfield
father: Charles BROOKS born 1740 Sutton Coldfield
mother: Ann BAKER born 1753 Tamworth in Arden
(married in Wootton Wawen)
siblings: Elizabeth, Mary

It is easy to see why there is some confusion. I have been hunting and hunting on ancestry for a tie-in document listing both Dorothy the wife and whichever parents this John has, but no luck. Nothing through google either. On ancestry, published trees have matched either John & parents with Dorothy and the children. And as far as I could read on their marriage banns, no parents were listed - and although there is a Brooks witness, I cannot make out the whole name.

Children of John and Dorothy are:
William, John, Elizabeth, Jarvis (Jervis), Jane, James, Mary, Ann, Hannah, Amelia, Henry, Emma.
While a match with the grandmothers name is found (they are the same for each possibility), neither possible grandfather's name has been used. Although, looking at possible sibling's names being repeated in their children, the information is leaning towards Francis/Ann as the parents.

I have names of John's possible grandparents from either match, and a bit further back, and it doesn't look like they are even related, as one line veers away from Sutton Coldfield into Nuneaton.

Any help appreciated, thanks.

[pjm99]

Hi,
I would suggest that you need to 'crack' the witness name you have because it may be a sibling. Have you discovered when the other John died and did that tell you anything? Did the second John survive long enough to have completed a cenus that might help with the DOB? Also if he did complete a census and you can find a marriage does that help in any way. It could be you already have these answers.
Peter