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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 January 12 18:56 GMT (UK) »
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Thanks again for all your help. The Matthew Needham born on the 6 Nov 1774 is the son of the Matthew Needham I'm trying to trace. In thee 18th Century there were 145 Needhams christened in Sheffield. Only one was Matthew - the one you found and only one father was called Matthew - the one I'm trying too trace. Next week I aim to go to Sheffield Archives to see if there is a settlement certificate for Matthew Needham from Queniborough to Sheffield. If there is then I'm happy that I've tracked down where Matthew Needham originated from.

I've looked on IGI and can find the birth of Matthew Needham but they do not have a record of his marriage or death in Leicestershire, which would indicate that he moved away from Queniborough. He did have a brother John and a John Needham was a witness at Matthew Needham's wedding. So quite a lot fits

Thanks again for all you help

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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 22 January 12 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

In answer to your original query

If Matthew Junior lived in Norton, North Derbyshire just below Sheffield, just in the boundary of Derbyshire. To the East towards South Rotherham in the countryside villages is the Nottinghamshire boundary (Roughly North/East  of!! where the North bound M1 & M 18 motorways split West of Worksop. Sheffield or Rotherham archives may have overlap Parish's with these counties but Matlock and Nottingham archives Repositories, or Worksop and Chesterfield Libraries may have Film/fiche of PR's or transcriptions, Also FHS in above places aforesaid

See old county boundary maps

Enjoy your trip to Sheffield  :)
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 22 January 12 20:33 GMT (UK) »
At Sheffield Archives 18th/19 century

Settlement and Removal Records (certificates, examinations, removal orders, etc.)

Attercliffe, 1712 - 1792 (Sheffield Archives: CA26/1)

Bolton Upon Dearne, 1701 - 1862 (Sheffield Archives: PR9/93-95)

Bradfield (and Westnall and Waldershelf),1700 - 1761, 1781 - 1793 (Sheffield Archives: Wil. D/457)

Bradfield, transcripts and index [1705 - 1850] (Sheffield Archives: MD7277)

Chesterfield (Derbyshire), 1746 - 1809 (Sheffield Archives: MD6525/5/1-4, 7) © Sheffield City Council, 2011
Page 27 of 44

Dodworth and Silkstone (Barnsley), 1703 - 1784 (Sheffield Archives: MD3171/5)

Dore, c. 1720 - 1839 (Sheffield Archives: JC/1258)

Ecclesfield, 1712 - 1715 and 1754 - 1766 (Sheffield Archives: PR54/148/4 and PR54/148/2)

Foolow (Derbyshire),1710 - 1830 (Sheffield Archives: Bag C/566)

Harthill, c. 1701 - 1737 and 1700 - 1849 (Sheffield Archives: PR47/55 and PR47/92-93)

Hooton Roberts, 1767 - 1819 (Sheffield Archives: PR26/22)

Ludlow (Shropshire), 1721/1722 (Sheffield Archives: MD6525/5/8)

Sheffield, 1717 - 1787 (Sheffield Archives: TC/433)

Sheffield, orders and disputes relating to settlement, [18th cent?] (Sheffield Archives: TC/367/37-46)
Silkstone (see Dodworth)

Skelbrooke, (Doncaster), 1690 (Sheffield Archives: MD3609)

Staveley (Chesterfield, Derbyshire), 1720 - 1830 (Sheffield Archives: JC/1122)

Thorpe Salvin, 1659 - 1839 (Sheffield Archives: MD1237/1-156)

Todwick, 1704 - 1820 (Sheffield Archives: PR1/16)

Westnall and Waldershelf (Bradfield), 1700 - 1761, 1781 - 1793 (Sheffield Archives: Wil. D/457)

Whiston, 1701 - 1829 and 1773 - 1843 (Sheffield Archives: PR37/46 and PR37/54)

Whiston, 1701 - 1739 (Sheffield Archives: MD6625)

Whiston, transcripts [1701 - 1739] (Sheffield Archives: PR37/56)
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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 February 22 16:59 GMT (UK) »
I am researching the Needham family from Barnsley, who came from Sheffield to start an iron foundry there.  My ancestor is a John Needham, b1820, who lived in Queen St, and married a Harriet Twibey at Sheffield Parish Church on Feb 2nd 1841. Their witnesses were George Needham (molder) b1798 who was John's father and a Matthew Needham (from Sheffield Indexers website). I am wondering if Matthew was John's brother and the family originally came from Derbyshire and are linked to the Needham families that you have been researching?


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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 February 22 21:39 GMT (UK) »
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Well you've woken me up from my slumber on my own family tree with your question. Having started looking at my own ancestry I came to a halt with Matthew Needham who married Elizabeth Worral in Sheffield in 1768. You might ask why am I telling you all this? In trying to find out who were Matthew's parents and where he was born I generated a lot of data about the Needham's and decided to publish it so that others could benefit from a compendium of data on the Needham family. So, I built a website and eventually registered what I'd done with the Guild of One Name Studies. I am the administrator of the One Name Study of the Needham's and all the work I've done can be found on: https://www.needham.one-name.net

This includes a transcription of baptism, burials and marriages up to at least 1837 in a large number of Parishes including many in Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Cheshire and Staffordshire plus  transcriptions of wills and memorials/gravestones, family trees, archive references etc. Most of this data I've transcribed by looking at the original images. This includes data from Sheffield and Rotherham. There are a large number of trees on the site and all of these can be found on Ancestry.

To answer your question. John Needham 1819-1875 f George Needham m Catherine Martin had I believe two brothers Joseph and George and three sisters: Ellen, Sarah and Elizabeth; no Matthew. Now John's father George (1797 - ?) had five brothers including a Matthew (1812-1877); so it could be he who is the witness at John's wedding. But there is a second possibility. John's father George was the son of Matthew Needham (1774-1844) and Elizabeth Lee so he could be the witness you are seeking

As it happens John's grandfather Matthew (1774-1844) is the son of Matthew Needham (1745?-1787) and Elizabeth Worral who are my 4xgreat grandparents. So we are related. But I will always say that you need to check all this as I could have made a mistake.

My family tree is on the website:https://needham.one-name.net/webtrees_new/index.php?route=/webtrees_new/tree/SheffieldNGN

or Ancestry. If you have an Ancestry account let me have your user name and I'll make you a guest.

Hope this helps

Nigel

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Re: Needham's of Sheffield
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 March 22 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Thank you Nigel for assisting with taking my family tree back to the 1700's! It was when I was looking at your RootsChat posts and noticed the name Matthew, that I thought that there could be a link between the Matthew that I had found and the Matthews in your tree. It was a bit of a Wildcard really, but to then to find that we are related is great! My grandmother was Rhoda Needham from Barnsley who married John Thomas Killingbeck.  I have been using the Genealogist site, but it doesn't seem to generate as much information as Ancestry. I have joined Ancestry on a free trial, but am still finding my way round it and haven't really got to grips with it yet!  I really hope that I don't find that Ellis Needham was one of my ancestors! Many thanks for replying!
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