LEE family puzzle

[~MERLIN~]

Marriage for James LEE:

LEE James single age 24yrs m. FORD Florence Muriel single age 21yrs 25/12/1890
Place: Res of grooms parents Nailsworth
District: Ade; Book/Page: 165/1240
Groom's Father: John LEE
Bride's Father: John FORD

Looks like John LEE did arrive in SA

Possibly his death before James marriage:

LEE John age 55yrs d. 18/05/1890
Status: N; Residence: Adelaide; Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade; Book: 185; Page: 490

*NOTE* It doesn't look to be John's death as his wife's name in the newspapers is given as Elizabeth 

[deeiluka]

Wonderful Merlin!         

I have more comments to make but no time this morning, so I'll get back to this later today!


Dee   

[sparrett]

REG28893 In 1945  CAIN  ADAM
 84 YRS WENTWORTH
 WENTWORTH   


This death which I posted above is for ADAM's father.

ADAM L was born in 1886
REG 35057 In 1886    CAIN ADAM L
Father ADAM
Mother AGNES
WENTWORTH   

There was at least one more child to ADAM & ALICE and this one was named JOHN Mmmm...


Enlistment Summary WW2

CAIN JOHN DOUGLAS 
Date of birth - 01 Sep 1914
Place of birth - WENTWORTH NSW
Place of enlistment - ROYAL PARK VIC :
Next of Kin - CAIN ADAM

Sue

[majm]

Ummm... possibly off on a side track but

NSW 1903 RIVERINA, polling at Wentworth

James William LEES, of Wentworth, clerk Petty Sessions
Adam CAIN, of Wentworth, labourer
Agnes CAIN, of Horse Shoe, River Murray, dd
Alfred CAIN, of Milkengay, Avoca, labourer

Cheers,  JM

[deeiluka]

Thanks again, folks.   

Where do I start?

Perhaps with the arrival of the LEE family that Merlin found. I'm particularly thrilled with that. With the names of the children it has to be the right family.   

The oral history of the family says that just 4 LEE boys came to Australia, not the parents, but to me it is obvious that the oral history is way off,  as is often the case.

From the list that Merlin has posted, there are three boys, Peter, James and Frederick. The question arises.....was Frederick actually Frank? Or was Frank missed off the list? The age suits Frank's birth year of 1872. And was Alice born 1874 just missed off the list too, I wonder? As the two list vary, itg seems quite likely that omissions occurred.

Another possibility for John is that he came out first. This happened with a couple of families in my history.

Thanks for the link to the story of the voyage and arrival too, Merlin.   


Dee   

[deeiluka]

Marriage for James LEE:

LEE James single age 24yrs m. FORD Florence Muriel single age 21yrs 25/12/1890
Place: Res of grooms parents Nailsworth
District: Ade; Book/Page: 165/1240
Groom's Father: John LEE
Bride's Father: John FORD

I saw that marriage, Merlin, but was unsure because of the "Groom's parents" and thinking that John didn't come out here. I also checked to see if Florence Muriel had died, because none of the "In Memorium" notices say James/Jim and Florence (or Muriel).   

I also saw the death of John in 1890 and wished it had had a little more information.

It does seem rather likely though.   


Thanks for the Constance Mary Lee marriage etc.....that is all new to me.   


Dee   

[deeiluka]

Sue and JM......thanks for your posts too. Between you all I am starting to get more of an idea of this family that has been difficult to trace in the past.   


Dee   

[deeiluka]

Some more on Frank William LEE.....

Frank William LEE & Mary Ann Rusher LAKE had a son John G LEE in Broken Hill in 1907 and a daughter, Jean Elizabeth LEE,  in Yatala in South Australia in 1912, so it seems they moved back to South Australia within a few years of being in Broken Hill.

But most interestingly, there are some quite interesting articles about Frank William LEE on Trove. It appears he was a Foreman baker, which could be the family link with the family Neil found...... 

Hi again, I have his family living at 49 Park street St Georges Hanover Square in 1851. His dad John is a Baker employing two men.
His dad b1811, mother Carolin b1812, sisters Emma b1833 and Elizabeth b1840 and brother Thomas b1844.

Neil

Dee......still looking for the birth of Constance LEE and possibly a Frederick LEE.   

[~MERLIN~]

Dee......still looking for the birth of Constance LEE and possibly a Frederick LEE.   

I have already given Constance Mary LEE's 1879 birth in my previous post - Reply #17

Frederick is Frank just an error in the newspaper report.

He is listed on the passenger list as FRANK which is held at the SRSA.

You can see them all on the index noted as arriving 1881 here except for *JOHN*!!!

http://143.216.32.39/archivessrsa/t1tbmain.asp

SRSA quote:

Search the passenger and ship name index to GRG 35/48/1 Official Assisted Passage Passenger Lists 1845 – 1886.                                                                                       
Note: There are no digital images of records available online.