CRAVEN from Northowram, UK

[shell24a]

I have not been able to find any of my NUTTER family in the 1861 census and presume it is because there were allegedly a lot of pages damaged and lost. Another brick wall.
fred ..

[jorose]

familysearch.org also has the marriage of Lydia and Matthew in 1876; she is listed as Lydia Caven or Craven and he as "Mathew H Mitter" (writing a bit scribbly). I see that they're living pretty much next door to each other in 1871 so they may have travelled together.

Is "Hannah Benn" the "Hannah Kershaw Anderson" (married a couple times in Australia) who was b. Halifax? Listed as daughter of Abraham and Mary when she died in Australia in 1915.

I can see:
1856 marriage for Mary Nutter to Abraham Benn.
Possible death 1857 for Abraham.
possible birth 1857 for Hannah Benn
(both in Halifax)

In 1871 Hannah is living with uncle, Richard Kershaw, 41 years old, a widower (I think I can see him in 1861 but none of the family with him). On the "N Boynton"I can see that Matthew and Lydia are listed together, Mary lists herself as single and under the name "Mary Nutter".  So presumably she reverted to Nutter (possibly because the marriage to Abraham was so short-lived).

[shell24a]

Hi Jorose, thank you for the information, Yes I have found the info on the marriage of MHN & LC and the 1871 census.

 I also thought mutual travel to America. But I do have a ship manifest of Mary N, MHM, LC & Hannah B all travelling from NY to Sydney in 1877. So that section of the family went & I am unable to find out how they got to America.

Lydia had at least one brother Benjamin living in Lawrence Mass, and I don't know how he got there but he arrived 1861 and was naturalized, 1890 US census. Lydia worked in the Arlington woollen mills in Lawrence Mass. USA but I have not found any other means of follow up.

Yes Hannah Benn is the HKA died in Au buried in Mays Hill cemetery.

Bit of hand holding needed please, I am unable to see the marriage of MN to AB in 1856.

RK was married to MN's sister Elizabeth but she died 1870 aged 40.

MN also had 2 brothers James 1823 Mathew 1826 and John 1827
fred ..

[jorose]

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
 - here under Abraham Benn, June quarter 1856 Halifax, vol 9a page 532. A Mary Nutter has the same reference.
 There's also an interesting possible marriage in 1852 - Joseph Nutter and Mary Kershaw have the same reference - might be related to this family?

If Mary's maiden name was Nutter, who was "George"? 
Which certificates do you have for them?

Some people going to the US, particularly those headed for areas like MA, came via Canada, so if you can't find them heading to the US that might be the route they took.

[PaulineJ]

Marriage or Bann Date:   19 Apr 1852 @    Halifax, St John The Baptist

Joseph Nutter Age:   27  Father's Name:   George Nutter (Clothier)

Mary Kershaw 23y Father's Name:   Christopher Kershaw (Gardener)

Both from Hipperholme

[shell24a]

That marriage detail looks good I will send away for it tonight.

George is a complete unknown at present although I have just found a marriage to a Mary N in 1844 to a George Woodhead. Will probe that more before I plonk the pounds, too many rushed decisions before ended up with wrong cert.

There were a lot of Mary Nutters around in those days. Indeed a lot of Nutter families that I have not mad a connection with, yet.

Have no idea on the Joseph Nutter and Mary Kershaw connection at this point in time. Hipperholme is not too far away on google. Richard Kershaw father was Thomas Kershaw. have th marriage cert of RK & E & both death cert.

Also have to spend more time combing the Canada shipping, but have done a lot so far with no luck.
will keep looking. fred ..

[PaulineJ]

IF you go the a public library, the 1852 marriage is online (with original image) under the west yorks parish records on Ancestry.

Pauline

[shell24a]

Thanks Pauline, found that marriage cert of Joseph Nutter and Kershaw. Not sure where it fits in.

Could not find the mar cert of Abraham Benn and Mary Nutter but have sent for it with the references. I think it will be incorrect, like a previous one.

BUT a big win, found the marriage of Mary Nutter and John Blackburn with whom she was living in 1871 census along with her son Mathew Nutter. WOW. And she was the widow Benn in that marriage.

[shell24a]

Good news, the Benn Nutter marriage was the right one and managed to get the birth of daughter Hannah and sadly the death of Abraham 2 months after her birth.
Still trying to find out how and when they went to America.