CRAVEN from Northowram, UK

[shell24a]

I have a Lydia CRAVEN who was born at Northowram 7 Oct 1846, approx 3 Km NE of Halifax UK the 4th of 5 children of Samson Craven and Elizabeth Cheetham. The father was a wool sorter, nothing is known of her mother. Lydia married Mathew NUTTER in Boston and later came to Australia in 1877 on NBOYNTON. How they travelled to America is a mystery. In UK 1871 census they appear to have been neighbours in Crossley Terrace Halifax.

[CaroleW]

1851 census for Northowram - all children b there

Samson Craven 43 b Clayton - wool sorter
Elisabeth   37 b Southawram
Benjamin   14
Martha Ann   9
Josiah  8
Lydia   4
Joseph   1
HO107 Piece 2302 Folio 10 Page 12

Parents marriage from the IGI

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJ2H-G9D

[CaroleW]

It's not really clear what it is you are asking for help with

Matthew Henry Nutter was the son of George (occ mechanic)  and Mary & was born 29.8.1850 and baptised 6.7.1851 at St John The Baptist Halifax

[shell24a]

Thank you Carol for the reply. I am seeking how Lydia CRAVEN, Matthew Henry NUTTER, Mary NUTTER and Hannah BEAN/BENN went to America. I have been able to locate both families in the UK census.
the information about Matthew's father surname is also unknown as his  mother's maiden name was NUTTER.
 

[rosball]

This doesn't help with your search for their passage to US, but there is a lovely headstone to Lydia, Mary and Matthew Henry Nutter and the picture and details are on the Australian Cemeteries website
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=8028333
(just in case you don't have it)

regards,
   Ros

[shell24a]

Thank you Ros, it is a great cemetery with a couple of books published about it. Unfortunately it has been the subject of vandal attacks in the past which has required a lot of work to be done to repair and re-stand headstones. The "Friends of Mays Hill" is a very active group.

[rosball]

What a shame about the vandalism. 

By the way there is a public tree on ancestry which has that Matthew Henry Nutter is the son of Mary Blackburn and John Blackburn and gives as a source the 1871 census where MHN is stated to be the son of John and Mary Blackburn and living in Halifax with them and some Blackburn children.  MHN is a (control?) printer. 

This still doesn't help with their passage to USA but if it is not your tree then it maybe worth contacting them to compare info

regards,
   Ros

[shell24a]

That is a confusing census sheet. I have deduced Mary his mother is living with Blackburn (despite a claim of marriage) and Mathew is shown as a son but is hers, hence he is on the bottom of the list. I have never found a marriage for Mary Nutter and she had 2 children to 2 different fathers. It happened. I don't subscribe to Ancestry and in the past when trying to contact people have not been successful. Grist for the mill as the experts say!

[PaulineJ]

RG9; Piece: 3254; Folio: 67; Page: 20
John Blackburn   39
Mary Ann Blackburn   37
Joseph Blackburn   12
Mary Blackburn   10
Elizabeth Blackburn   7
Harriet Blackburn   4
Saml Blackburn   3


in 1871 MHN's relationship is servant. (& he's a Carpet printer)
RG10/4395; Folio: 81; Page: 13

And you can see he's not with the Blackburn family in 1861.

Pauline