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Re: Stephen Smith Footballer
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 11:11 GMT (UK) »
???

Can I just check please? ... Your post has Arthur Lockett England cap 2 March 1903 v Wales Score 2-1

As far as I can tell he only got one cap 14 Feb 1903 v Ireland score 4-1

Is that a typo or is it wrong in the book? Or maybe it's another cap no one knows about?


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It was 14 Feb, I was looking at the wrong player when I was typing it out.
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Re: Stephen Smith Footballer
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - just the one cap then...but still good ;D

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Stephen Smith Footballer
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul
 thanks for your info, yes that sounds like the one, only i cant find him on wikipedia
do you know if there is any pictures of him , Lisa
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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 21:43 GMT (UK) »
1911 census details deleted - please see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html
Campbell - Lanarkshire,Scotland
Mcdonald - Lanarkshire,Scotland
Porter      - Staffordshire,England
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Re: Stephen Smith Footballer
« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 February 12 07:05 GMT (UK) »
I said I had further information that I had yet to dig out. It is from a book called ‘An English Football Internationalists’ Who’s Who’ By: Douglas Lamming (1990) – both Stephen Smith and Arthur Lockett are listed in this book.

LOCKETT, Arthur
(Stoke, 1903, 1)
Born: Alsagers Bank nr. Stoke-on-Trent
Died: 1957
1903: Height: 5ft 8ins      Weight: 11st 7lbs

Career: Alsagers Bank FC, Crewe Alexandra, Stoke May 1900, Aston Villa April 1903 (£400), Preston North End September 1905, Watford cs 1908-12. Other honour” Football League (1 app).

Outside-Left. Greatly talented amd possessing tremendous speed. Like many of his kind, though, had van inclination to bamboozle the same opposition twice, thus holding up an attack. Attracted a sizeable fee by 1900s standards from Villa.




SMITH, Stephen
(Aston Villa, 1895, 1)
Born: Abbots Bromley, Staffs. 14 January 1874
Died: 19 May 1935
1895: Height: 5ft 4ins      Weight: 11st 6lbs

Career: Cannock Town, Rugeley, Ceal FC (Hednesford), Aston Villa cs 1893, Portsmouth May 1901, New Brompton cs 1906, serving as player/manager November 1906-cs 1908. Other honours: Football League (2 apps). (Villa) Football League Champions 1894, 1896, 1897, 1899, 1900. Portsmouth (Southern League), 1902.

Outside-Left. Squat in build and no doubt hardened by previous labours at Hednesford Colliery. ‘With great speed he also passes very accuratley and is further a safe shot at goal,’ was an early verdict. Played a ‘blinder’ in his International but, even so, was never picked again. Partnered his brother, William while at Pompey; and his son, Stephen Jnr., also a left-winger, assisted 4 London clubs as well Southend during the ‘Twenties. An Oxfordshire shopkeeper for the last 3 years of his life.

* There was some information which escaped my research but now I have it; New Brompton are now comminly known as Gillingham FC. When Smith played for them they were in the Southern League (non-league).
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« Reply #32 on: Monday 13 February 12 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Wow, so William was also a footballer, i didnt realise i was from such a sporty family it must have completely missed my generation lol although i do like football.
Thank you so much for your interesting information its brought another branch of my tree to life. Lisa
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 13 February 12 12:27 GMT (UK) »
....inclination to bamboozle the same opposition twice, thus holding up an attack. 


Thanks for all this info Paul....  I wonder what the "bamboozle the same opposition twice" bit is all about ;D

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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« Reply #34 on: Monday 13 February 12 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Millymcb, i wonder if they knew each other lol, My family are also all from Ardwick in Manchester and i also have Steele in my family. Lisa
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« Reply #35 on: Monday 13 February 12 21:38 GMT (UK) »
....inclination to bamboozle the same opposition twice, thus holding up an attack. 


Thanks for all this info Paul....  I wonder what the "bamboozle the same opposition twice" bit is all about ;D

Milly

Sheffield United used to have a player like that, Peter Ndlovu - he used bamboozle the defence. He'd successfuly out wit his opponent by breezing past them then he'd decide to backtrack and go round them again!

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