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Turnham Green
« on: Saturday 14 January 12 09:21 GMT (UK) »
I am a newby to the forum and found lots of older posts about Turnham Green via Google, so I thought I would seek assistance from the community.

I am trying to trace my ancestors Thomas & Sarah Anderson who apparently lived in TG about 1831. Their son, my direct ancestor, George Edward Anderson has put his birthplace as Turnham Green on every census from 1861 to 1901, with birth year varying from 1830-1832 on all these census. His younger brother (1834) does not, so presumably the family moved to Brompton/Kensington (1841 census) sometime between 1830/2 and 1834.

Can anyone give me some help please? Is there anywhere I can see the 1831 census on line? Indeed, would that necessarily help in terms of the detail on the 31 census? Any suggestions would be gratefully received. I am not able to easily travel to Chiswick.

Many thanks

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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 January 12 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andy

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Very few 1821 and 1831 census returns survive, they are not online, and where they do, there is no genealogical data in them. They are a basic head count and only the head of the household is shown.

What are you actually looking for?

Dawn
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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 January 12 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi

16th January 1842 Holy Trinity Brompton
Joint baptism
George Edward
Edwin Thomas
Mary Sarah
parents Thomas and Sarah Anderson
4 Grosvenor Row
father's occupation police officer

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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 January 12 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
There is this baptism 29 June 1828 Chiswick St Nicholas
Edward Thomas Anderson
Born 26 March 1826
Thomas and Sarah Anderson of Turnham Green
Fathers occ. Labourer

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 January 12 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1841 census HO107 609/13 folio 15
Yeomans Row Brompton
Sarah Anderson 24
George Anderson 11
Edwin Anderson 8
all born in county

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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 January 12 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Burial
21st August 1831 St Nicholas Chiswick
Edward Thomas Anderson aged 5 Turnham Green


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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 January 12 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1851 census HO107 1469 folio 138
19 Hooper Court Brompton
Sarah Anderson 40 Head Widow Hat Binder Marylebone Middlesex
George Anderson 21 Son ? Journeyman Marylebone Middlesex


George Edward married at Holy Trinity Brompton in 1855. He gave his father as Thomas a servant. Deceased isn't given but to add that additional information was the custom of some officials only. Many did not include it, so it doesn't prove one way or the other whether George Edward's father was still alive in 1855.


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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 January 12 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dawn
I am actually looking to trace Thomas Anderson back further than 1841, his birth/baptism and his marriage to Sarah.

I have baptism records of George Edward, Edwin Thomas, and the newly born Mary Sarah dated 16/1/1842 when the family lived in Yoemans Row, Brompton. I also have a record of an Edward Thomas born in Turnham Green in 1826, his baptism two years later in 1828, and his death in 1831. Thomas Anderson's wife Sarah (mother to George, Edwin, and I believe Edward) died 20/2/1840, and it is their marriage that I am interested in. There is every indication that they lived in Turnham Green, witness George's later census returns and the Birth/Baptism records of Edward.

The tracing of all this has been complicated by Thomas marrying again to another and different Sarah in Q1 1841 [Sarah Mary Ann Thomas]. Yes that name again but this time her surname/maiden-name!
I can follow Thomas forward from there right up to his death in Q1 1863.
And I can trace George Edward forward with all census records, marriage certificate, and death certificate in 1911.
Hope this is clear. It also answers some of the other kind answers after your post.

I have seen elsewhere in this forum more detailed info allegedly from the 1831 census and it was this sort of hints I was looking for.

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Re: Turnham Green
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 January 12 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks also to Valda for your replies. I have all this information and more which I have detailed in my reply to Dawn (hope that's OK).
As I say, I am looking to trace Thomas and the first Sarah back further. I say 'first Sarah' because I have found a marriage record of a Thomas Anderson and a Sarah Duffin. Both were widow/widower so maybe Thomas married three times. I was hoping that there were other records from Turnham Green that could verify who the first Sarah was. I have sent for her death certificate but don't hold out much hope for a maiden name.

Many thanks