Mary Ann CUTHBERTSON

[stobo]

Hi Merlin Thanks for the help I believe Mary Ann Cuthbertson had another son dob. 12/12/1880 born in Franklin.Also a daughter born in Oatlands dob.14/02/1885 .but i have no names kind regards stobo.  

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Hi Stobo,

Daughter Pearl Ruby 1885, died 1 mth old, Oatlands,

I found this article under Family notices/deaths/ in trove .

 The Mercury Hobart, Tas.Saturday 18 April 1885
HILL.-On Wednesday, April 15, 1885, at Oatlands, Pearl Ruby, infant daughter of Richard and Mary Hill, aged 1 month.

Robert

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Also
 
The Mercury Hobart, Tas. Saturday 18 April 1885 Monday 16 January 1882
HILL.-On Friday, January 6, at Arthur Circus, Battery Point, Richard Albert Whitfield, only son of Richard and Mary Hill, of Franklin, in his 13th month.

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Hi Stobo,
I was just cross checking T.C.W. Hill on his enlistment form signed 17/8/1914 has his age as 30yrs 8mths which places his dob at the end of 1883 start 1884, I was just wondering if the boys were twins or I've been barking up the wrong tree.

Thomas Charles Witfield Hill
Service number; 41
Place of birth; Bothwell, TAS, Australia
Place of enlistment; Melbourne, VIC, Australia
Date Enlisted; 18/8/1914
Next of kin; Hill, M A (mother)
WWI file; B2455, HILL T C W
Deceased; D3548

Age at Enlistment; 30yrs 8mths.

The twin theory is definitely out the door, different birth locations unless TCW stated his age incorrectly, I must have the the wrong Richard and Mary Hill in Trove.


Robert

[~MERLIN~]

Births:

HILL Name Not Recorded MALE b. 12/12/1880 FRANKLIN #1130/1880 RGD 33 = Richard Albert Witfield

HILL Name Not Recorded MALE b. 29/12/1883 BOTHWELL #814/1884 RGD 33 = Thomas Charles Witfield

HILL Name Not Recorded FEMALE b. 14/03/1885 OATLANDS #2381/1885 RGD 33 = Pearl Ruby

Parents: RICHARD CHARLES HILL &  MARY ANN CUTHBERTSON

[~MERLIN~]

Deaths:

HILL RICHARD A age 1 d. 06/01/1882 HOBART #3528/1882 RGD 35

The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Tuesday 10 January 1882
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9004511


HILL PEARL RUBY age 0 d. 15/04/1885  OATLANDS #975/1885 RGD 35
Father: RICHARD C

The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Friday 17 April 1885
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9103601

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Me again,
I said that med was making my brain fuzzy, just bad transcription on my part.
 
The Date Should Read 1882 for R.A.W.'s death not 1885 in my previous post.

The Mercury Hobart, Tas. Monday 16 January 1882
HILL.-On Friday, January 6, at Arthur Circus,
Battery Point, Richard Albert Whitfield, only son of Richard and Mary Hill, of Franklin, in his 13th month.

Sorry about that folks!
Robert

[stobo]

Hi Thanks everyone for your help,very sad to hear all of the Hill family died so young :'(The reason I was trying to find Thomas Charles Whitfield Hills family ,is Ihave a medallion given to the next of kin,on his death, who would have been Mary Ann Cuthbertson. I hoped to return it to his G,niece or newphew.since their is no direct line if any one on mary anns side of the family would like to have it I will qiiet happily post it to you.thank ou all for your help once again Stobo 

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To my knowledge Marry Ann Cuthbertson left no descendants, I'm related via her older sister Maria Elizabeth Cuthbertson but many other relatives exist on the Cuthbertson side even relations through her 1st husband and father of TCW, Richard Hill, may even be found.
Richard had a brother Charles John HILL 1862 and sister Mary Cooke HILL, 1866, there may be descendants of TCW's uncle and aunt who canbe found.
I haven't delved into that line of the family at all and the names and dob came to me via others, it maybe worth waiting a while to see if some more details can be found about them.
If nothing is found the War Memorial may accept it.
Mary Ann had a sad life, loosing two children early in their life then her husband Richard only a few years later, then to remarry, Andrew Crawford, who died about a year after their marriage..
Then to loose her only son TCW in WW1 it must of been devistating for her when she received that news. 
The commemorative medal must of ment a great deal to her it deserves a home where it will be respected.
If you choose to leave it with the War Memorial I will be travelling that way later this year when I visit family at Yass.
Robert