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Re: Witness name help pls
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 12 January 12 07:17 GMT (UK) »
It does too ....

I am off to the 1890 Sands Directory again .... thanks Neil

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 12 January 12 07:21 GMT (UK) »
 :'(  :'(  :'(

None with that surname in that 1890 Sands

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 12 January 12 09:48 GMT (UK) »


Gosh - Elphick  :o

Hey that's a new one for the "possibles" list Neil.  ;D

Thanks for the suggestion. I've had a look at NSWBDM and can't find a Thomas Elphick who looks like a match (unless he never married or died  ::) ) Still looking though ...

Can you give all the names and addresses that appear on the certificate please, also occupations...if some possibilities appear, connection by association might be useful.

Unfortunately it's the "Certificate of Marriage" wivenhoe and the only places mentioned are:

"Barwon River QLD" (residence of bride)
"Eugowra" (residence of groom)
St Barnabas church, George St., Sydney (place of Marriage)

That's about it unfortunately.

Currently waiting to get the official marriage cert so until that appears I think we'll return this to the "too hard" basket (yet again)

I'll report back if/when I ever find this guys name (living in hope  ;D )

Many thanks for all your very able assistance

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« Reply #30 on: Thursday 12 January 12 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Well there are still GREEN families in Eugowra and surrounds including some of my friends of six plus  decades ... 
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday 12 January 12 13:26 GMT (UK) »
How about Thos Belick
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 13 January 12 01:39 GMT (UK) »
Outside the square speculations  ::)

Try using the NSW SRO keyword search option just with the one keyword, "Thomas" , and click on Deceased Estates ..... there's over 2000 returns, all in strict surname order !  .... It may give some possible surnames for interpreting that signature

There's also the index to Deposition Registers, with similar number of returns ....

And of course there's other indexes as well on that website.... 

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 13 January 12 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Staying inside the decipher square speculations. ::)

I not up on Aussy BMD's ?  but here in the UK there was two register entries of a marriage one for the church and one for the register office also a copy sent to the bishop known as BT's. If its the same in OZ  then a copy of one of the other entries may have a better readable entry of Thos ??.
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« Reply #34 on: Friday 13 January 12 02:32 GMT (UK) »


Reading through, I cannot see, but might have missed... who are the bride and groom?

Young people usually have close family at a wedding. Do you know what age they are and the names of the four parents?

Might lead to names that look like possibilities.

What is the name of the other witness?


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« Reply #35 on: Friday 13 January 12 02:52 GMT (UK) »
Staying inside the decipher square speculations. ::)

I not up on Aussy BMD's ?  but here in the UK there was two register entries of a marriage one for the church and one for the register office also a copy sent to the bishop known as BT's. If its the same in OZ  then a copy of one of the other entries may have a better readable entry of Thos ??.

Similar system in NSW Australia, however, the NSW BDM office usually only received a summary of the actual parish register in that particular era. ..... there were serious political issues, Church v State etc....  NSW BDM certificates usually provide vital family history info, eg the names and occupations of the parents of the bride and groom, the ages and occupations of bride and groom etc BUT there are still significant blanks on marriage certs for the very era we are looking at .... you see until 1895 NSW mcs were not providing those vital details

Adding, but of course the information should be recorded on the original parish registers .... BUT there was a huge fire at the church some years ago .... 

Cheers,  JM

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