Ducie

[roly]

Thanks for that.  I'd already discounted your third candidate because we know Patrick's age (born in 1888).  My problem is that I can't quite work out how Army records worked (duh!) and whether or not the remark on Patrick's war record that he was 'deceased' applied to 1917, when he was discharged, or to a later demise.  It'd be handy if it was the latter...This would explain the birth of James within the marriage.

roly

[aghadowey]

I'm a bit confused by your post as the 1917 death means Patrick was born 1879 rather than 1888 and he was listed as bachelor. The CWGC site gives details which confirms date of death in 1917 and some personal details which again should easily rule this Patrick out- "son of Mrs. Sabina Ducie, of Bunnawillian, Geesala, Ballina, Co. Mayo."
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/900025/ducie,-/

The 1937 death shows that Patrick as married & born c1887.

[roly]

We're left with the 'middle' Patrick who's more or less the right age...His death allows the birth of a son.

I think that I may be able to confirm the identification...There are two letters written by a Patrick Ducie regarding entitlements; and, as far as I can make out, they were sent to the military authorities in 1922.

I'll continue to fossick - and thank you for your interest.

roly

[roly]

Still on the trail of this man - having followed leads that people have kindly contributed.  I'm pretty certain now that I've found Peter's childen but still can't get a perspective on his 'supposed', death in 1854.  The story is that he was killed in a building accident (this is how it came to me through family members).

I was wondering if somebody could, perhaps, point me in the direction of possible newspaper reports of the accident.  I'm not at all familiar with local papers: Peter lived in Sidcup.

Meanwhile, of course, I'll continue to dredge.

roly

[myluck!]

roly I think you put a typo there

Peter DUCIE Death 1964 Sidcup Q3 V5b P704 aged 41 (bc1923)

He is listed on the Government Probate Death Index 1960-2019 in 1965

Ducie, Peter of 10 Thursland Road North, Cray, Kent died 2 September 1964 in the grounds of The Hollies, Halfway Street, Sidcup, Kent. Administration London 11 June 1965 to Ellen Patricia Ducie Widow

Did you get the death certificate to see what it says?

[roly]

Thanks...
No.  Haven't got the death cert. yet...

roly

[roly]

Continuing Ducie trails...

Holding fire on death certificate for Peter...He had a sister, Eleanor Teresa, married and domiciled in France.  She (now deceased), in turn, had children - which makes them cousins to Peter's children. 

I'm looking to find the whereabouts of the youngest (?) of Peter's children, Diane E Ducie...I'm guessing Diane Ellen - her mother was Ellen and it's a favourite family name.  After a birth-date for Diane in 1963 (Bromley, Kent), records are proving hard to discover.

Her cousin, here in France, somehow lost touch with the family and would be happy to receive news.

roly

[aghadowey]

We aren't allowed to post details of living, or possibly living, people.

[roly]

Forgot.  Apologies.

roly