Margaret HUNT Barnstaple 1841 Look up please.

[KateW]

Yes, of course, I was forgetting that it all has to be from parish records before 1837.  Ok, well, I am grateful for your offer once again! 

I have several branches of Hunts in Barnstaple on my tree records.
I have visited Barnstaple and been to see where they lived (Joy street etc) but unfortunately the Library/Records Office was not open as it was a Sunday!  Also as I think they were Methodists I could not find any grave records so it would have been a futile task to check in the cemetry although we did find it.

Kate

[krisesjoint]

Hi Kate,

This may explain the 1850 death

HO107/203/4; Folio 14 Page 23
Princess Street
Barnstaple

WILMOTT Margaret 65 Y Ind
HUNT Thomas 60 Y Ind
HUNT Margaret 65 Y Ind

I am not easily spotting a marriage nor spotting them in 1851. Hopefully Steve will have some joy at the records office. Margaret's burial record may list a little information. (age and maybe a residence)

Sometimes (but not always) non-conformist records provide extra information on the mother such as son of ...... and ....... who is the daughter of ....... and ........ No Guarantees - some are just basic baptisms, with no extra information on the mother.

by manipulation of the index I find this baptism

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk

HUNT Thomas Harry (Father John Hunt) 1817 Devon  RG4_0952    
HUNT Thomas Harry (Mother Margaret Hunt) 1817 Devon RG4_0952    

along with

HUNT George Martyn Father John Hunt 1817 Devon RG4_0952    
HUNT George Martyn Mother Margaret Hunt 1817 Devon RG4_0952

I would have to wonder if MARTYN may be a significant family name.   

also Jane in 1811 RG4_0952 and Catherine in 1819 RG4_0952 listed

RG4_0952 is the Cross Street Independent Chapel in Barnstaple

Cheers Kris 

[KateW]

Thanks Kris for the look-ups. 

Is this the 1841 census for my Margaret?  It suggests that she was alive but in Princess Street rather than Joy street with the rest of the family.  1841 doesn't have much detail does it, eg: relationship to Head?

I had not thought of the name Martyn as being significant.  Perhaps I need to think it may be. 
I know John Dennis Hunt's mother was Dorothy DENNIS and Thomas Harry's mother was Margaret HARRY.  Each generation following have a similar name pattern, which can be helpful at times in suggesting the link is correct. 

KateW

[krisesjoint]

Hi Kate,

Yes that is the 1841 census. As you say very limited information in 1841 but looking at this I would wonder if Thomas and Margaret may have been a couple. (If that was the case I didn't spot a marriage to fit)

Good Luck

Kris 

[Old Bristolian]

Hi Kate

I had a look at the Cross Street Independent Church records today - it records John & Margaret Hunt becoming members in 1810, and the baptisms of the following children already given by Kris:

Jane (born 7 Mar 1810)
Thomas Harry & George Martyn (twins born 29 Nov 1817) bap 22 Dec 1817
Catherine (born 19 Nov 1819)
There is no sign of a John or Margaret junior. The church seem to have opened their burial ground (near Bear Street - now a car park!) in 1840 & I found John's burial on 5 Nov 1855, aged 78, address, Bear Street. There was also a burial of a Mary Hunt on 6 Mar 1841 aged 63, but no Margaret. There is a burial of a Margaret Hunt at the parish church 25 Mar 1850 aged 75, address, Derby (this is the area where Princess Street lies).

So no joy with a definitive burial for Margaret - the staff at the NDRO thought that nonconformists probably used the parish church graveyard before they had their own & I checked 1819-1841 but with no luck.

I found the baptism of William:

16 Apr 1753, son of John & Susanna, and their marriage:

17 May 1747 John Hunt & Susanna Hooper, but strangely no other children for the couple. Susanna's baptism:

31 Mar 1725 Susanna d of John & Elizabeth Hooper. No sign of a likely baptism for John.

I have made copies of the marriages of 1805 & 1776 - I'll send you a PM regarding them. The witnesses at John & Margret's wedding were a William Hunt and a Thomas Harry

Steve

[Old Bristolian]

Hello again

I forgot to mention I think the Margaret Henry/Harry in the 1841 Census is a red herring - literally!

The surname looks like HERRING as much as anything else, and Margaret & her eldest children appear to have been born in Ireland

Steve

[KateW]

Hi Steve

Well!  That is marvellous and very kind of you.  I am so excited to hear that you have found records going back as far as 1725 for me. I will email you and look forward to seeing what you have found.

Thank you
Kate

[KateW]

I have noted all the new information I now have thanks to Steve's kind help  but there is still a gap in the information about Margarett.  Would it be worth starting again with a new request for help to find Margarett's birth details?  This would be for Margarett (maiden name ) Harry born in Barnstaple.

[krisesjoint]

Hi Steve,

I see from the wonderful information you accessed that a witness at Margaret's marriage was Thomas HARRY.

I wonder when you get a chance if it would pay to check these other marriages in Barnstaple for clues. (Two men or one and the same - two marriages) Wondering if he is father (or brother) - Margaret did name a son Thomas Harry HUNT.  (signatures may help )

Thomas HARRY = Ann PRISCOTT 29 July 1801
Thomas HARRY = Mary THORNE 28 Oct 1810

With the lack of HARRY activity apart from these 3 marriages, I suspect they are connected. No luck with sighting in 1841. No HARRY born Barnstaple listed in 1851.

Kate,

I don't think starting another thread will help locate Margaret. You are very lucky to have Steve in the right place helping. If anything else is to be uncovered in Barnstaple I am sure he will find it. I have only found the three marriage records. If there is nothing further found I doubt Margaret was from Barnstaple. (maybe not even Devon. To my mind Thomas the witness at Margaret's marriage and these two marriages for Thomas HARRY may be the best lead at this stage.

Cheers Kris