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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 08 January 12 14:16 GMT (UK) »
A quick thank you for your encouraging words ...... I did wonder when I initially posted the pics how relevant it might be to family history but I think the chat about social history that is evolving is proving to be VERY relevant and it's painting a fascinating picture of the times.

I'm surrounded by files, pictures, books and CDs - and enjoying it all  :)

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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #82 on: Sunday 08 January 12 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Just wanted to say - absolutely fascinating reading.  We actually live nearish and walked near the village over christmas but would have loved to see it all.
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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #83 on: Sunday 08 January 12 15:32 GMT (UK) »
I think Rootschat is for family AS WELL as local history, surely ??
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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 08 January 12 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Not trying to draw any interest away from the OP, which is extremely fascinating..., but early last year I was researching the history of scaffolding… a groan and mumbles of ‘a sad gitt’ do I hear. Steel scaffolding only came about in the 1920s, and before that it was all wooden.

Can you imagine the forest of trees felled to erect a forest of wooden scaffold poles on a building such as Salisbury cathedral, which incidentally is reputed to have been built in 20 years… unlike Ely cathedral taking a reported 200 years? Much of this time is said to be as a result of a lack of scaffold, and trees were being imported from Norway. I had no previous idea there were any history buffs lurking in the corners of RC.

I came here from the BBC history hub when it became apparent it was sinking due to cost cutting… I also contribute to three other history sites… if anyone has any info ref early scaffolding techniques or brick making… I’d be really grateful if you could pass some on to me. It’s not for publication, more for personal use.

I’m sorry to distract, and I am following this thread with interest.
Btw… have you discovered what an ‘overhouse’ is yet, I’m really eager to know.


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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maggie I've dropped in today to read the messages since I was last in yesterday, as others have said its been lovely to read and I hope you keep us up to date with whatever happens to the lovely derelict cottage.

Many thanks.
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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #86 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bandick,

To try to answer the last bit first - Overhouses is just the name for a particular area within the parish.  It's a sparsly populated village so there were no streets as such and I think in one census the area is known as Upperhouses.  The cottage is located away from the centre of the village and slightly higher up a hillside. In the same way within the village there is a 'Narrowgates' and in the next village there is 'Nether Goldshaw' and 'Over Goldshaw'

About scaffolding and brick making I know nothing, but have a look at this site:-

http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/default.asp

It holds a lot of interesting information and you can do a search to see if anyone has posted anything relevant.  If that fails then just ask a question - I'm sure it will get answered as the site seems to have lots of knowledgeable engineers, steeplejacks, technical people and historians.  Good luck.
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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #87 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maggie I've dropped in today to read the messages since I was last in yesterday, as others have said its been lovely to read and I hope you keep us up to date with whatever happens to the lovely derelict cottage.

Many thanks.

It's been my pleasure and I will certainly keep you informed.  As I said the poor cottage is to be flattened before Good Friday to stop it becoming a focus for ghoul hunters and whatever.  This makes sense, sad though it is, as in the past such visitations have caused problems around here, particularly on 31st October.  :o
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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #88 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:15 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid "Over houses" in this context has a mundane meaning - the ones up the hill.

Hebden Bridge has a more exciting type - "top and bottom" dwellings. I once considered buying a house there. A nice stone-built terrace, with living room and kitchen on the ground floor, 2 bedrooms and a bathroom upstairs, and two attic bedrooms. Downstairs was a cellar which occupied half the floor area. Accessed from the street lower down the hill was another dwelling with a single upstairs bedroom which was at the same level as that cellar. A special Act of Parliament later gave special rights to the occupants and so allowed mortgage providers to lend on these properties.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Update on the ruined cottage at Barley
« Reply #89 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:35 GMT (UK) »
I like Hebden Bridge - I like the the fact that despite it being full of steep hills it has never deterred folk from building.  Mind you it must have been a grim place to live in the 19thC - not the trendy place it is now.

Newchurch has its share of '2 storey at front 3 at back' houses but I don't think there are any to match those Hebden ones.
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