help with uniform Please

[ddee]

  Is it possible to identify which regiment my aunts husband was in from the cut of his jacket? Photo taken at their wedding in 1940,sadly both now passed away.

[macintosh]

Most likely The Royal Scots Fusiliers going by the collar badges (a fused grenade) The cut of the tunic is most certainly a "doublet" cut and if it was clearer he probably has MacKenzie tartan trews.


James

[ddee]

     James, thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate your help. The scan was done from a photo copy, hence the poor quality.

Ddee

[miskimmin]

Hello there,
I am researching the regiment in 1940 and have many records, stories, diaries and photo's.
Can you tell me what his name was, I can then give you his battalion, company and where he served.
Best regards
Iain

[ddee]

Hello Iain 

His name was John Robertson Black  born in Ireland 1899/1900. He was a sergeant in the R.S.F.
His home address at the time of his marriage to my aunt was 21 Old Ave. Auchinlech, Ayrshire.

Iain I'm very interested in your Miskimmins name are you related to the Miskimmin family from Donaghadee?

Ddee

[miskimmin]

Sorry about that, thought my reply had been posted a few days ago, but this site seems to have a habit of swallowing things!

I've checked through all my records for the 1st, 2nd and 4/5th Bn RSF between 1935 and 1940, can't find him in any of the journals, lists or seniority rolls. Most odd!

From looking at his age, medals and location, I would say that he joined the RSF when he was 18 (there are 3 John Blacks) to see the last year of the war and continued serving for at least 10 years. Then he must have left and been put on a reserve list, only to have been recalled in 1940 to train soldiers at the depot in Ayr. (he is wearing a sash, which brings a depot sergeant to mind) he is wearing the ribbons for 2 medals (perhaps the victory and war medals of WW1)

Unless of course I have it all wrong and due to the BEF losses of the 2nd RSF in 1940, he was drafted in from another regiment?
Only his service record will tell you. (have you applied to the MOD for it?)

Sorry I can't be of any more use.

Miskimmin wise, we are south of england born and bred, but my grandfather was an orphan at one of the quarrier homes in Glasgow and his birth certificate say's Newtonards on it. So I can only presume they came over in the 20's.
What is your interest in the miskimmin name?

ttfn

Iain

[ddee]

Hi Iain

Thanks for your reply. John must have joined after 1935, he was married previously in 1920 aged 21, at the time a coal miner. When his wife died in 1935 her death cert. states he was a labourer. He was a coal miner after the war again. I haven't pursued his records as I have only just returned to research on the Blacks. He was actually my aunts cousin, his father James and my gran Matilda Miskimmin Black were brother and sister. So you see my interest in your name, my g-gran was Ellen Jane Miskimmin and I have been researching the family for many years. As they all had large families there are a few still unaccounted for, so any time I see the name it rouses my interest.

Do you know who your grandfathers parents were?

Regards Ddee

[miskimmin]

I'll keep digging with John Black, I just can't believe he could have made Sgt. by 1940 without prior military service!
There must be something in the books somewhere. Unless we have his regiment wrong and it is the Highland fusiliers or the Royal Scots. Hmm.

There are quite a few Blacks in the RSF records, just none that fit the bill!

My grandfather was Robert Smith Miskimmin and his parents Samual and Elizabeth Miskimmin (nee Smith) of Greenwell street in Newtonards. I found a birth certificate.

will keep digging on both

have a great weekend

Iain

[miskimmin]

STOP PRESS!

I applied for an older book of the attestation records (early 1920's) and have found him!

No idea why he doesn't appear in the seniority roles between 1935 and 1940. The record doesn't show a gap in service or does it show a transfer to another regiment.

most confusing, but his regimental number is here, so tracking down his medals and record will be easier!

sorry it took so long.