John Hathaway

[langtry]

Can someone please help?
I have a John Hathaway born19/1/1783 Gloucester,married to Charlotte Miller circa 1804.
Trying to find his parents and his children, in fact looking for those above him as well.
Possible that his father was Thomas Hathaway,but nothing certain.
Any help at all on this family would be appreciated.
Thank you,

langtry

[dragongirl]

Hi
Only thing I can find is 1841 Census, Coln ,St A ldwins Northleach Gloucester
John Hathaway  60yrs ,no marital status ,Ag Lab
living alone and  Born in County.
Nothing before or after for him A death Maybe in Northleach
1856but no proof its him
Sorry couldn`t be more help

[SandraAust]

Hi langtry,

I have this couple in my tree but given their marriage and children way before registration then not positive proof but reasonable speculation.

John HATHAWAY married Charlotte MILLER 14 Feb 1804 at Kingscote, Glos.

Chn for this couple - dates & locations given are christenings:
Charlotte 6 Dec 1804 Kingscote died 9 Dec 1804
Ann 1 Dec 1805 Kingscote
Edwin 24 Dec 1809 Boxwell with Leighterton
John 30 Jan 1812 ditto location
William c1814 Leighterton (from census)
Charlotte (my 3 x Great Grandmother) 17 or 19 July 1818 Leighterton
Caroline Hester c1822 Leighterton (from census)

I have John senior dying June qtr 1838 at Chipping Sodbury & Charlotte Sep qtr 1846 at Stroud. The 1841 census has Charlotte with unmarried children John, William and Caroline living in the parish of Hawkesbury which was in the regn district of Chipping Sodbury giving credence to the likely correct death regn for John senior.

Charlotte may have been living with then married son John at her death in 1846. He married in Dursley in 1842 and his children were born in towns/villages that came under the Stroud district.

I also can't find John seniors parents named on his christening (LDS site).

Please let me know if you would like more info.

Sandra

[sdbadger]

Another RCer sent me the link to this message (soooo hung up on Chatterbox I rarely get to the forums!).

I descend from a Nicholas HATHAWAY, 1595 Kingscote, Gloucs., to USA ca. 1639.  It is said his parents were Thomas and Margaret HATHAWAY of Kingscote.

Nicholas emigrated to America with (at least) son John b. 1626.  It is known Nicholas had a daughter Deborah, baptised London in 1622, if I recall correctly.  His mother's will calls him "maltster of London" and was done/probated prior to his emigration.  Margaret's will is available online (at A2A, I believe).

Nicholas had several siblings mentioned in the wills of both Thomas and Margaret.

Obviously, my lineage is much earlier but I hope this helps you a bit.  I can always be reached through Rootschat.

Good luck!

badger

[Victor Harvey]

Hi langtry,
Source: Glos Archives PFC 191 1/4 1, Kingcote, Marriages & Baptisms:-
John HATHAWAY m. Charlotte MILLER, both of this parish, 14th February 1804, by licence in the presence of Herbert(?) HATHAWAY & John MORE.
Ann, dau of John & Charlotte HATHAWAY was born 4th November and christened 1st December 1805.
There were NO more baptisms up to and including 1812.
Victor

[sdbadger]

Well done, Victor!

Anything in those records you cite going back to Nicholas, Thomas, and Margaret?  I have the PR on microfilm at my FHC, but if there is something else you think would be of help to me, please let me know.

Thanks!

[sdbadger]

OOPS!  Well done, too, Sandra ... sorry!

[Victor Harvey]

Hi Badger,
I'm more than happy enough to do further lookups, but can you be a bit more precise about Nicholas, Thomas & Margaret.
Victor

[SandraAust]

Hi Victor and Badger,

It's great to get another piece of the puzzle isn't it?

Can someone explain the difference between marriage by license or by banns? Is one of them due to the bride or groom being under 21? From the age given in the 1841 census (forgetting for the moment the possible 5 year variation) I would have thought that Charlotte was 18 at marriage - wouldn't she require permission to marry from a parent or guardian? And wouldn't they have been one of the witnesses or at least named in the records?

Sandra