Agnes WESTERMAN- John FARMER

[R_Hood]

As a child during WW2 I remember we received occasional food parcels from Australia.  From family memories they appear to have come from a cousin of my mother Hilda CORDON.
Researching the family I believe it may have been Agnes WESTERMAN who married John FARMER in Liverpool in Dec 1896.   Again they may have emigrated around 1900.
If I remember correctly the parcels came from Rockhampton.
I would appreciate it if anyone can cast any further light on the subject or recognises a family connection.

[ennael]

Do you know Agnes' parents names?.

[cando]

Is this their marriage but in November?

FARMER John 29 years, Mariner, Batchelor, Residence 13 St Vincent Street.  Father John FARMER, Cotton-porter
WESTERMAN Agnes 27 years   Widow Residence 21 Lord Nelson Street. Father Joseph HUTCHINSON, Green grocer
28 Nov 1896    Parish Liverpool St Simon
Witnesses James LAWLEY and Jane ARNOLD.

Cando

[cando]

This could be her death, however the death is in Brisbane...not really sure about this however the mother's name is Ann and her husband appears to be Mr F J FARMER.  I really don't think it is her somehow.

1943/B57254
FARMER Agnes
9 Jul 1942    9 Jul 1942
Mother   Ann Eliza Mole

Funeral notice
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jb3/

1871 Census  RG10/4658/Folio/114/Page/15
Living at Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Joseph Head Married 33 years  Greengrocer  Born Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Ann  Wife  Born Ecclesfield
HUTCHINSON Sarah Ann  Dau  10 years  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Mary Alice  Dau 9 years  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON John Son 7 years  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Will Son  5 years  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Ada  Dau  3 years  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire
HUTCHINSON Agnes  Dau  8 months  Born Ecclesfield Yorkshire

Marriages Mar 1889 
HUTCHINSON Agnes   Wortley 9c/280    
WESTERMAN    James    Wortley 9c/280

In 1891 James and Agnes WESTERMAN and dau Mary E 18 months are living in Mortomley, Ecclesfield.

See if I can find some passenger records.

Cando

[cando]

This could be her death, however the death is in Brisbane...not really sure about this however the mother's name is Ann Undecided Undecided and her husband appears to be Mr F J FARMER.  I really don't think it is her somehow.

1943/B57254
FARMER Agnes
9 Jul 1942    9 Jul 1942
Mother   Ann Eliza Mole

Funeral notice
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jb3/

Not your Agnes....found births to Agnes MOLE and a Frederick James FARMER on Qld bdm.

Cando

[cando]

1901 Census
Living at 21 Holden Street, West Derby
FARMER John Head Married  33 years    Frameman On Dredger Steamer  Born Liverpool
FARMER Agnes Wife Married 32 years   Born Mortomley, Yorkshire
FARMER Thomas Son 3 years    Born Liverpool    
FARMER Beatrice Daughter 2 years  Born Liverpool   

Cando   
   

[R_Hood]

Thanks Cando
I thought at first we were on the right lines as one of the family memories was that Agnes had married a sea captain in Liverpool.  However, if she had been born a Hutchinson she cannot be the Agnes Mary Westerman b. Nottingham that I thought.  I've always assumed she was a blood relative of my mother whose grandfather was a Westerman.  Finding the date of their emigration would be a great help I think, so I'll keep looking
R_Hood

[Aussie1947]

Hi,

There is a Catholic Baptism 14th August 1903 Parish, st Anne, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.for a Thomas Farmer born 20th July 1897.

Father, Joannis.
Mother, Agnetis Farmer (westerman)
Address, 15 Helena St.

If these is your Farmers (maybe not though) it puts them still in England in August 1903.

Regards
Gerry

[cando]

There is only one Thomas FARMER birth registration in 1897 on freebdm

Births Sep 1897 
FARMER Thomas     Toxteth Park 8b/188

Baptism at St John the Baptist, Toxteth Park
2 Aug 1897
FARMER Thomas son of John [Labourer] and Agnes FARMER 
66 Nickleby Street

Baptism at St Nathaniel's Parish Church, [West Derby] Liverpool
23 Apr 1899
FARMER Beatrice dau of John [Mariner] and Agnes FARMER
21 Holden Street.

Bit of a puzzle with the Catholic Baptism....could Thomas have been baptised in two churches...perhaps one of the parents was Catholic

Cheers
Cando