Identify Military Uniform and Date Please

[jrfalk]

@ Radland, I'm interested to know how did you identify the bayonet scabbard to be that of 1867?

Check out this site regarding Danish rifles used in that period of time
http://www.svartkrutt.net/board/index.php?mode=thread&id=485

There is also a picture this man a man in uniform from 1864 with a rifle from 1822. http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3421&str=   If you use Google Chrome it will translate from Danish to English

It's likely that same uniform would have been around in 1867 too, but I'm curious on the bayonet now.

I would have never found any of this without all your help.  Thanks again to all that replied or made an attempt to investigate

Cheers,
Justin

[Radlad]

@ Radland, I'm interested to know how did you identify the bayonet scabbard to be that of 1867?

Check out this site regarding Danish rifles used in that period of time
http://www.svartkrutt.net/board/index.php?mode=thread&id=485

There is also a picture this man a man in uniform from 1864 with a rifle from 1822. http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3421&str=   If you use Google Chrome it will translate from Danish to English

It's likely that same uniform would have been around in 1867 too, but I'm curious on the bayonet now.

I would have never found any of this without all your help.  Thanks again to all that replied or made an attempt to investigate

Cheers,
Justin

These links are all for weapons in use before the photo was taken and are not indicative of the time. The M67 Bayonet is a sword type one and not a spike type as in all your links. It was used with the M67 rolling block rifle which used modern style metallic cartridges and NOT the muzzle loading muskets shown in the links. I am familiar with the model M67 and was able to identify it by enlarging that section of the photo and studying it. There is an earlier thread in which I correctly identified the M67 bayonet as issued to Norway at the same time.

[maidmarianoops]

http://hansenfyn.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/peder-christian-jensen-grnn-14-dec-1830-31-may-1907-our-2nd-great-grandfather/

this has a good photo


sylvia

[jrfalk]

The picture that maidmarianoops linked to,
http://hansenfyn.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/peder-christian-jensen-grnn-14-dec-1830-31-may-1907-our-2nd-great-grandfather/
looks very similar and from the biography it doesn't seem he served after 1864.

Now I'm confused.

I did find a picture on 1864.dk photo archives.
The first is a picture with a very similar bayonet
http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3554&str=
Is this not the same?

I also found two pictures with the exact same table as in my picture, including one that appears to be the very same studio with the same curtains, drawstrings, and floors. 
http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3251&str=
It appears he may have a similar bayonet too, but it is too hard to tell

I'm interested in your thoughts Radland.  Any suggestions?

Thanks again for your expertise,
Justin

[Radlad]

The picture that maidmarianoops linked to,
http://hansenfyn.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/peder-christian-jensen-grnn-14-dec-1830-31-may-1907-our-2nd-great-grandfather/
looks very similar and from the biography it doesn't seem he served after 1864.

Now I'm confused.

I did find a picture on 1864.dk photo archives.
The first is a picture with a very similar bayonet
http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3554&str=
Is this not the same?

I also found two pictures with the exact same table as in my picture, including one that appears to be the very same studio with the same curtains, drawstrings, and floors. 
http://1864.dk/?page_id=12&projekt_id=3251&str=
It appears he may have a similar bayonet too, but it is too hard to tell

I'm interested in your thoughts Radland.  Any suggestions?

Thanks again for your expertise,
Justin

Interesting link 1, I'm enlarging the photo and studying it, will come back on that one.
EDIT: Hilt Does not appear to be the same and looks like it has a bulb end and a straight quillion. More like a short dress sword than a bayonet

Link 2. An officer carrying an infantry sword, nothing at all like the bayonet in your original picture. much longer and totally different grip. To say it is similar is extremely wide of the mark.

Link 3. Very indistinct, can't see the hilt but it appears the Chape has no button on the bottom so a guess says not the M67 bayonet. I can also see what appears to be a holding strap near the hilt, this was used on spike bayonet scabbards of the time


This is a photo of the bayonet in your original picture

[Radlad]

I've had a thought. Rather than guess at his military service, according to a Rootschat article, all Danish military records are available.

Evidently they are called Laegdspuller and are in the Haerens Arkiv in the Danish national archives in Copenhagen.

Why not contact them, you might be able to get his full service record.