Western Australia - George CHURCH - Ernestina CHURCH

[cando]

OK...Debrao would you please list the siblings born prior to Ernestina...and I am certainly aware of what information is available on Victorian birth, death and marriage certs  

It is always helpful to other forum members if you happen to have a cert, to list ALL the information.  It is often the smallest snippet of info that breaks down brick walls

What are the parents ages on the birth cert?

Apologies for not following up the info on Elizabeth before posting....I usually do that but am having problems with my Vic discs at the moment.  However there is no birth registration for Elizabeth with parents George and Elizabeth MEYER.  There are registrations missing from the Vic bdm's and perhaps this is one of them.  I notice on Elizabeth's marriage reg that she was born Dandenong [Robert was born Sydney] and that was also the place of birth for sibling George in 1872.

Perhaps wait for the marriage cert to arrive

This may be your George....his father was Isaac and George was born South Australia.

CHURCH George
Criminal records 1850-1900  Victoria
Born 1852 Adelaide
Source: Victorian prisoners index c.1850-1900 (males) VPRS 515/10  Page#07221
Comment: Mother at Bendigo, Father Isaac. Prisoner No 7128

Cheers
Cando

[debrao]

The George Church born in SA in 1950 seems to me to be the George William Church who married Mary Elizabeth Meyers in Vic, rather than my George who married Jane Moore in WA.

The Ernestina Church born to George William Church and Mary Elizabeth Meyer on 2 Nov 1880 had older siblings Jane, Isaac, Sabina and James.  I have found all of their birth and some death records as well as those of other children George an Mary had.  Their Ernestina's birth record states that George was born in Adelaide in SA and Mary in Harkaway, South Australia, although I think this is an error and should be Harkaway, Victoria.

I can find no record of my Ernestina Church being born to George Church and Jane Moore of Coolup, WA.  That doesn't surprise me though as George and Jane only married in 1903 and Ernestina was born in 1880 (I have seen her grave and it lists this year as the year of her birth and 1919 as the year of her death).  I am convinced that George had a first wife who gave birth to Ernestina and thought I may have struck gold when I found Ernestina Church born to George Church and Mary Elizabeth Meyers.  However, as none of the Church/Meyer children ended up in WA, and Mary died in QLD in 1926 - and it seems that Ernestina Church/Meyer married a Mr Urquhart, it seems that it is an unhappy co-incidence and I am still missing a mother for my Ernestina and a first wife for my George!

 

[cando]

As Rhonda pointed out Ernestina born 1880 could not have married Robert URQUHART in 1891...she would have been 11 years of age.

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Cando

[cando]

What were the parents' ages on the birth certificate please?

Cando

[cando]

Thought some information sounded familiary.  A previous thread about George William CHURCH - his wife had re-married by 1900.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469318.0.html


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[cando]

Oop typo.... should be  familiar 

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[cando]

Perhaps George and Jane's 1903 marriage certificate would be useful

Cando

[debrao]

Yes I've ordered George and Jane's marriage certificate also.

I saw the previous thread about George William Church and Mary Meyers which confirmed that they are unlikely to be my Ernestina's parents. 

Will post the details once I have George and Jane, and Daniel and Ernestina's marriage certificates.

[cando]

I guess there will be a number of us interested in the info on the two marriage certificates

I saw the previous thread about George William Church and Mary Meyers which confirmed that they are unlikely to be my Ernestina's parents. 

I wouldn't completely dismiss them as this George Wm CHURCH's death has not been found....as yet. 

Wonder what happened to their daugher Ernestina born 1880?

Could we please have the age of Ernestina's parents on her birth certificate?

The eternal optimist 
Cando