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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 07 January 12 14:26 GMT (UK) »
In 1861 census, widowed Mary is a farmer of 26 acres at Archeysflat in Henshaw. Same place of abode as recorded at the baptism of John Blake Hunter in 1854.

It looks like Mary then married Nicholas Dent, Dec Qtr 1861 Haltwhistle.

Nicholas is a Railway Inspector, aged 41, also living in Henshaw in 1861 census.

A series of weekly Advertisements in the Newcastle Courant, Feb 13 to March 13 1863 :
"To be sold by Auction at the Old Grey Bull Inn in Hexham ... on Tuesday 17th March 1863 ....
Lot 2.  The customary estate called Archeys Flat and Meadow Dales, in the said parish of Haltwhistle, consisting of a good Farmhouse and suitable outbuildings and 37 acres, 3 roods, 35 perches, or thereabouts, of meadow and pastureland, with thriving plantations thereon, as now occupied by Mr Nicholas Dent".

The marriage cert of Mary and Nicholas should give Marys fathers name and occupation.

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 08 January 12 01:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very kindly Alan for your info. Are the baptism details online somewhere? I can find them via the Hugh Wallis IGI site but not the detail of the actual places eg. Archeysflat.  It looks like Mary and Nicholas acquired more land between 1861 and 1863 and seemed to be doing quite well. I wonder why they decided to sell, or whether even in those days, it wasn't enough land to live on. I've tried again to track down the marriage of Mary and William Hunter but to no avail. I'm sure they must have married and somehow or other I found a link to parish marriages (I think it was Newcastle Council site) but couldn't find them. I feel fairly sure the family is correct but not being able to find the index link is like having an "i" with no dot on it!
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #47 on: Monday 09 January 12 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Maybe they went north to marry--like Gretna Green.

I don't think Haltwhistle Presby records are on line except names and date.  You have to have access either at a record respository like Woodhorn or a transcript (fiche)

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #48 on: Monday 09 January 12 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Elizajb, pm me your email address and I will send you pdfs of the Haltwhistle Presbyterian baptisms.

I can't find a marriage for Mary and William either.

Mary has a son William aged 4, born Haltwhistle, in 1861 census, and his baptism isn't in the Haltwhistle Presbyterian records.
Familysearch has a baptism of a William, 7 Sep 1856, son of William and Mary Hunter, at Haltwhistle Primitive Methodist Church, so thats probably him.

If you just want to confirm Marys parentage (shes very likely the daughter of John Blake auctioneer, but needs confirming), then the marriage cert of Mary and Nicholas Dent should confirm this.
It should give Marys age and status (widow), and place of abode, and her fathers name and occupation. Same for Nicholas. Plus some witnesses. It will give at least as much information on Mary (and probably much more) than you would get from a church marriage record with William.

Did Nicholas, Mary and family emigrate after leaving Archeys Flat Farm in 1863, I can't find them on any census after that?

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #49 on: Monday 09 January 12 22:41 GMT (UK) »
That would be good thanks Alan and yes, it's really just proving Mary's parents at this stage so I think I'll order her 2nd marriage certificate as you suggested.  She and Nicholas did emigrate after their marriage which is surprising given that things looked reasonably comfortable for them at home.

2zpool - thankyou for your input. I've just had a look at the indexes for Gretna Green but sadly William Hunter and Mary are not among them.  Good thought though!
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 10 January 12 04:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am a direct descendant of John Blake Auctioneer he is my gggg grandfather.

My gg grandfather was Robert Blake French, my grandfather was also Robert Blake French and my son who is 18 is Alex Blake aswel!!

A lot of the descendants of John and Christian's children moved to Co. Durham mainly the Consett area which is where I am from.

I have lots of information, documents and photographs of headstones etc, the only downside is that I have only been able to find John's mother who is Margaret Blake but no father.  I have not managed to find any of Christian's parents.

I did not research any of the siblings of John Blake, at the time when I began my research approx 9 years ago the records were inconclusive and I had no evidence to confirm who or if any of his brothers and sisters were?

Inbox me and I will give you all of the information I have.

Thanks
Amanda (French)

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 10 January 12 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic Amanda, pm follows!!
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 10 January 12 17:44 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if this is your family --but--maybe:

birth/baptisms Haltwhistle Presbyterian:

Job Hunter born 7 Jul 1825, baptised 13 July 1825 s/o William and Mary, Garrockhall

George Hunter born 28 May 1827, baptised 9 Sep 1827 s/o William and Mary, Garrockhall

Amos Hunter born 25 Jan 1830, baptised 9 Jun 1830 s/o William and Mary, Garrockhall

Hugh Hunter born 23 Oct 1832, baptised 30 Oct 1832 s/o William and Mary, Garrockhall

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 10 January 12 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi 2zpool, I'm not sure whether they are related to  our family. Not unless the four boys listed are also brothers of Mary Blake's husband, William Hunter (b abt. 1822) which they could be, but I don't have info at this stage on William Hunter's father, William. Our ancestor was John Blake Hunter (b1853), son of William and Mary Hunter and brother of Mary Ann Hunter (b. 1848) and William Hunter (b.1856).
Many thanks for your "digging" help.
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