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Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« on: Tuesday 03 January 12 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Has anyone any ideas on how to find a marriage? William Hunter married Mary Blake, probably in Northumberland about 1848. William was born in Haltwhistle and Mary in Scotland (don't know where). I've searched ancestry, findmypast, familysearch, freebmd and can't find a record of their marriage. In the 1851 census they were living in Thorngrafton, Haltwhistle and William was a quarryman. They had a 2 year old daughter, Mary A who was born in Bickershaw, Northumberland but I haven't been able to quite pin that location down. I can't track Mary's family till I know who her parents were or what part of Scotland she came from, so I'm a bit stumped. Help!
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 09:56 GMT (UK) »
They had a 2 year old daughter, Mary A who was born in Bickershaw, Northumberland but I haven't been able to quite pin that location down.

It's not Bickershaw, it's Birkshaw, which is at Thorngrafton  :)
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 12:59 GMT (UK) »

 Elizajb,

 Although the 1851 census ( 2416-171-3) has Mary Hunter's " Where Born" as Scotland, the 1861 census (3866-107-5) shows her "Where Born" as
 Falstone.

 Falstone was a parish, a very expansive one, lying in the corner where the borders of Scotland, Northumberland and Cumberland met. Falstone was a small community lying noth west of Bellingham village.

Several Scottish parishes, within the county of Roxburghshire, bordered the parish of Falstone, e.g. Castleton, Teviotdale, Hopkirk, Southdean, etc.  The Cumberland parish of Bewcastle was adjacent to Falstone.

Did you search for the marriage beyond Church of England records. Both the parishes of Falstone and Haltwhistle had Presbyterian churches from mid 1750s.

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Michael has identified Falstone as place of birth

1851 Census HO107  2415  432  15

The eldest child, Margaret Blake, was born Fallstone c. 1828

1841 HO107  843  9/18  15

This is the same family. It includes a Mary Blake born c.1826 and Margaret c. 1828

Possibilty?

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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 19:55 GMT (UK) »
There is a burial in Falston
Margaret Blake aged 84 years
December 30 th 1848
abode given as Rickinton New Casleton Scotland
may be grandma
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Paul Blakey married Jane Scot in Falstone in 1780,
so they are around there some where,
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou very much JenB, Michael, Hanes and Radcliff, that is very very helpful. No wonder I couldn't find Bickershaw!  I had seen a Bellingham family in the 1841 census but wasn't sure because I'd seen one or two others in other places as well and I'm not familiar with the area, or country, at all. I think the parents in that family were listed as being from Scotland but the children weren't.  I had sent away for the birth certificate of one of Mary and William Hunter's children (John Blake Hunter) and it had recorded Mary as being born in Scotland which is why I thought she had been but it seems from what you say that it might be incorrectly recorded due to the situation of Falstone in the border counties. With regard to the marriage search, I'm not very experienced with the family history yet, so does that mean that the marriages recorded in findmypast and other sites are mainly Church of England? How does one go about finding the Presbyterian records? Many thanks to you all for your wonderful input.
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 20:21 GMT (UK) »
In respect of the William Hunter/Mary Blake marriage, it doesn't matter what denomination they were married in - C of E, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic - it was after Civil Registration began in late 1837 the marriage should be on the GRO index.
In theory that is......
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Re: Help finding Blake/Hunter marriage
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 20:25 GMT (UK) »
I did notice in those Falstone records I looked through,that  the minister was a Presbyterian on some records ,not all.
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