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Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« on: Monday 02 January 12 01:36 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to locate any records for James Moore (about 1817 - 1887) and his wife Jane Kirkpatrick (about 1819 - ??).  James was a farmer, he lived in Ballywee.  He had a brother called Robert.  He and Jane had numerous children, including James, Maggie, Mary, Isabella, Robert, Sarah and John.  James' will is available at PRONI - he died March 21, 1887, and he named his brother and his wife as his executors.  His daughter Mary was my great grandmother.  I can find no record of the birth or marriage of either James or Jane - clues, anyone?

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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 January 12 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
   Only record which I can find is the Griffiths Valuation (1862 for this area) which shows that James rented a 22 Acre farm. See http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch

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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 January 12 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Melodien

My Kirkpatricks were living in Ballyclaverty in 1880's and I have been trying to find missing members of this Kirkpatrick family.

Strange question to ask I know..but
1. did they have twins in your family
2. did they have eye or hearing impairments in your family

Steve
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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 January 12 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Ballywee is over 40 miles from Ballyclaverty  :-\
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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 January 12 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Aghadowey

But Ballyclaverty is about 2 inches above Ballywee ,about a mile away.

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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 January 12 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Seems to be more than one Ballywee, then  :)
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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 January 12 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Steve,

TWINS

You need to distinguish ...

   ... identical twins;
            [Cause: A single zygote splitting apart during the early differentiation process.
                 Such is considered an "accidental" happening - not an hereditary trait.]

   ... non-identical twins.
            [Cause: A simultaneous release of multiple eggs.
                Such is known to be a female hereditary trait.]

Scientific investigations currently conclude that the male contribution to the creation of the next generation has no measurably significant influence on any tendency to produce multiple embryos in the female's body.

During the 19thC "the development of the human embryo" was known as "Evolution"!


James KIRKPATRICK & Margaret KIRKPATRICK, twin offspring of William KIRKPATRICK of Ballywye,
    were baptised on 20-MAR-1811.

James KIRKPATRICK, son of William KIRKPATRICK of Newmill,
    was baptised on 10-JUN-1812.

Mary KIRKPATRICK, daughter of William KIRKPATRICK of Newmills,
    was baptised 16-AUG-1813.

[The above baptisms were all performed by The Revd. Henry COOKE, a famous character!]


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Melodien,

I searched the recently transcribed 5,300 baptismal records for Donegore 1st Pb at Parkgate.
No joy on James MOORE b. ~ 1817.
Nor on Jane KIRKPATRICK b. ~ 1819.

No matches for  any offspring of James MOORE & Jane KIRKPATRICK.

A Mary Jane MOORE, daughter of Robert MOORE and Margaret Wilhemina CONNELL of Ballywee,
    was born 20-NOV-1854 & baptised on 22-JAN-1855 by The Revd. W. J. GILLESPIE.

Perhaps you need to search further East, in to Kilbride parish ...

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WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 January 12 04:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve

I have not come across any twins, but the records are far from complete.  I know that my uncle Gordon went blind early, but I think that was due to diabetes.  I can't see a thing without glasses.

I'm getting the sense that Jane Kirkpatrick (or Kilpatrick, she seems to have used both) may have been from outside the area.  James and Jane appear to have had their children baptised in Antrim First (Millrow) Presbyterian Church, and it's possible that there is more detail available there, if I could only find a way to get at it (I'm in Australia).

regards

Melodie


Hello Melodien

My Kirkpatricks were living in Ballyclaverty in 1880's and I have been trying to find missing members of this Kirkpatrick family.

Strange question to ask I know..but
1. did they have twins in your family
2. did they have eye or hearing impairments in your family

Steve

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Re: Moore/Kirkpatrick of Ballywee
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 January 12 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Ballywee occurs in two parishes in Antrim, one of them is in Kilbride parish.

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Melodie

Seems to be more than one Ballywee, then  :)