Anne Webster - born 1765 - Wellow

[kazfoster]

Hi again
I have an Anne Webster born 1765 in Wellow who marries a William Womble (Woombell or Var) in 1784.

I thought I knew which William she married (born 1746), but I am now having doubts.  Several trees in ancestry have her marrying a much younger William (Born 1760).

The reason I have her with the older guy is that his sister Elizabeth clearly mentions other siblings in her will as well as his child John webster Woombell.  Elisabeth died in 1824 - I think she was born 1743.  Does anyone have any idea how I can check her age at death?

Any help much appreciated

Happy New Year
 

[Nottschick]

You seem to have proof from another source which William is the correct one.  Maybe you should go with your instincts and ignore what others have on Anc....... y.   It could be that one person has "chosen" a William for their tree  because it nearly fits and others have taken the information for theirs without any checking process. 

Sorry I can't help with your original query.

NC.

[kazfoster]

Hi - yes my instincts were right.  I put this together years ago using three wills which helpfully refer to the same family to verify my choices.
I went back through the info today and verified it again.
So many trees wrong on Ancestry !!!  I have sent messages to the tree owners - and the "root" tree guy admitted it was completely wrong - he just hadn't corrected it - result about 15 wrong trees!
Glad I followed my nose!

Thanks

[popkiwi]

Hi - It appears that you may have the correct line here.
Do you have the Marriage cert for William and Ann?

Your William was born on 31/08/1746 and his sister, Elizabeth born 27/02/1742
You mention she named her siblings, do you have their names? I have found five in total.
William and Ann had nine children, the eldest being John Webster Wombell b 14/08/1784 and the youngest was Elizabeth b 15/05/1803 which makes her father William 57 at her birth.

Hopefully marriage info may tell you the age of William and Ann at marriage although info from that time may not be given

I hope this helps - popkiwi.

[trish1120]

With the Children of William/Ann I think you have to be very careful as another William/Ann were in Wellow early 1800's

A William WOOMBELL Married Ann COUGIL, 29 Dec 1800, St Swithin, Wellow
So the ELIZABETH 15/May 1803 may be the Child of this William/Ann
+ a William WOOMBELL, 13 June 1808, Same Church was Married to Ann CLARKE- is this the Son of William/Ann born c 1785?

Have you looked up the 1784 Marriage Licence?
Anne would be a Minor if born c 1765.
I do think you are on the right track though.

Looks to me your William/Ann had Christened these dates;
JOHN WEBSTER, 15 Aug 1784
WILLIAM, 25 Sept 1785
ELIZABETH, 01 Sept 1789
SARAH, 29 April 1792
(Parents William/Ann)
+
MARY, 04 Nov 1787
ANN, 02 March 1794
GEORGE, 09 March 1796
THOMAS, 06 July 1798
ROBERT, 08 June 1800
(Parents Willm/Ann)

Trish

[trish1120]

Christenings Children of ROBERT/MARY Wombel/l
SARAH 01 Feb 1739/40
ELIZABETH 27 Feb 1741/42
WILLIAM 31 August 1746***
THOMAS 01 Oct 1749

Robert WOMBLE Married Mary BENNET 20 March 1739/40, St Peter and St Paul, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
Both of Wella (Wellow) by License

I presume you have Ann WEEBSTER, Baptised 26 March 1765, St Swithin, Wellow to JOHN/CATIRON
Siblings;
GEORGE Webster, 18 Jan 1761 (died 15 Feb 1761)
ELIZABETH Whebster, 03 Jan 1762 (died 1779, Parents John/Catherina)

Possible Burial of a CATHERINE Webster, 04 March 1786, Wellow age 61, Birth c 1725
+ a JOHN Webster, 25 April 1802, Age 78, Birth c 1724

All info I have posted is on FreeREG.

Sorry if I have posted info you already have but sometimes it is good to have fresh eyes look at info to confirm.

[trish1120]

FreeREG also has a possible Marriage;
John WEBSTER of Wellow
Katherine WEBSTER of Upton
09 Dec 1753, St Gregory, Fledborough, Nottinghamshire

Then in Wellow we have this Baptism;
MARY, 20 Oct 1753, St Swithin to JOHN/CATRINE

I hadny looked back far enough for the possible Marriage until I found possible Burials for John/Catherine.

[kazfoster]

With the Children of William/Ann I think you have to be very careful as another William/Ann were in Wellow early 1800's

A William WOOMBELL Married Ann COUGIL, 29 Dec 1800, St Swithin, Wellow
So the ELIZABETH 15/May 1803 may be the Child of this William/Ann
+ a William WOOMBELL, 13 June 1808, Same Church was Married to Ann CLARKE- is this the Son of William/Ann born c 1785?

Have you looked up the 1784 Marriage Licence?
Anne would be a Minor if born c 1765.
I do think you are on the right track though.

Trish

I am fairly sure I have the right William after looking in the Wills.  Elizabeth is 80 when she dies - which dates her as the dau of Robert Woombell & Mary Bennet.  Her will lists williams children, including the occupations of some, together with the rest of the siblings and some neices/nephews.  Then Williams Will lists his children, including occupations.  His son Thomas then leaves money to his brother John Webster and other siblings.  Proof enough for me.  I did wonder if William was married before Ann too - although no previous children are mentioned.  Another quest!

I plan to do a word doc with all the details and put it on my tree onn Ancestry

I will take a look at the other marriages - I have Anne Cougil, and she is in my direct line - again a combination of wills backed this up - but since I did this ages ago I am going to recheck and see if any more info is available.

Thanks so much for checking this out for me - I will let you know how I get on
Karen

[kazfoster]

Christenings Children of ROBERT/MARY Wombel/l
SARAH 01 Feb 1739/40
ELIZABETH 27 Feb 1741/42
WILLIAM 31 August 1746***
THOMAS 01 Oct 1749

Robert WOMBLE Married Mary BENNET 20 March 1739/40, St Peter and St Paul, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
Both of Wella (Wellow) by License

I presume you have Ann WEEBSTER, Baptised 26 March 1765, St Swithin, Wellow to JOHN/CATIRON
Siblings;
GEORGE Webster, 18 Jan 1761 (died 15 Feb 1761)
ELIZABETH Whebster, 03 Jan 1762 (died 1779, Parents John/Catherina)

Possible Burial of a CATHERINE Webster, 04 March 1786, Wellow age 61, Birth c 1725
+ a JOHN Webster, 25 April 1802, Age 78, Birth c 1724

All info I have posted is on FreeREG.

Sorry if I have posted info you already have but sometimes it is good to have fresh eyes look at info to confirm.

Excellent - I had missed George altogether and Eliz birth, although I had her death.  There is another death for a John webster 1766 - Looks like I need to try to find more wills to double check - any idea on John Webster birth?

Will take a look at FreeReg - not used it before.
Cheers