Smellie/Allan

[lud]

Hi Karen,
here is the stone for Hugh,

[lud]

Karen,
sorry but Hugh,s stone is on its side and partially buried, that's the best I can do, and as our learned "chatter lodger" says it,s a family plot ,here is the third stone, the forth is lying face up and covered in moss/lichen, hard to transcribe.

 

[Lodger]

I can add just a tiny bit more information to this family plot.
A Plot Book existed for this burial ground and listed burials there begining at 1901 and ending around 1954 (with a few cremation caskets up to about 1963).
This book was in the care of Motherwell District Council (taken over by North Lanarkshire Council) and free access was given to anyone who asked to view it. Unfortunately, it was stolen and never returned. Fortunately, a good friend of mine, who has ancestors buried in the Old Manse, transcribed this book and gave me a copy, so all is not lost!  The book uses the plot numbers allocated on the plan drawn up by Alexander Bryden Assistant Inspector of Poor in 1893.

So, I am using Bryden's map, a copy of which I have in front of me, to give what information there is on 20th century burials within this Smellie plot. He has 4 graves marked as numbers 44, 45, 71 & 72. This makes up a large oblong-shaped plot with one-third of the lower left side missing!
A grave in those days held generations of people, not just 3 or 4 like the modern ones of today.

All dates are of burial.
No.44 (owned in 1893 by James Smellie).
ANNIE LEISHMAN SMELLIE, aged 30 years. Interred in left-hand lair at depth 6.5 feet. 6 Nov 1905.
JACKIE TURNER SMELLIE, aged 63 years, interred in centre lair, depth 6 feet. December 1906.
JAMES SMELLIE senior, aged 65 years, interred in centre lair, depth 5 feet. 11 Nov 1907.
JAMES SMELLIE junior, aged 34 years, interred in centre lair (now full) depth 4 ft. 6 Oct 1911.
MARY SMELLIE, aged 50 years, interred in lair next to Clyde, depth 5 feet. 16 March 1932.

No.45. (Owned in 1893 by William Smellie).
WILLIAM SMELLIE, aged 30 yrs, interred  lair next to Clyde - right (side) depth 4 ft. 29 Nov 1919.
WILLIAM SMELLIE, aged 80 years, interred in centre lair, depth 4 feet. 7 Nov 1927.
HELEN SMELLIE, aged 78 years, FULL. depth 4 feet, 14th Feb 1935.

No.71. (Owned in 1893 by William Smellie).
JANET ALLAN or SMELLIE, aged 77 years, interred in top lair (now full) depth 4 feet. 23 Feb 1903.
JANE SMELLIE, aged 55 years, interred in second-bottom lair, depth 4 feet. 17 Aug 1921.

No. 72. (Owner in 1893 William Smellie).
DUNCAN SMELLIE, aged 2 years, interred in bottom lair, now full. Depth 4 feet. 17 Jan 1907.
WILLIAM SMELLIE, aged 74 years, FULL, depth 3 feet. 10 Feb 1940.

[Lodger]

I forgot to say - Lud, you deserve the Victoria Cross for going way down there in this terrible weather to photograph those stones. There's no easy way of getting there, so well done!

I also forgot about the short-lived "Dalziel Parish Bank". I don't know who organised this venture, it was done in the manner of a Friendly Society and seems to have existed from the end of 1815 until the start of 1829. The records are with the National Archives in Edinburgh. I have a transcription.
4 entries for the name Smellie.

SMELLIE ISABEL, abode Flemington, banked between 24th June 1818 & 23rd December 1824.
SMELLIE JANET, abode Flemington, banked between 24th June 1816 & 28th May 1818.
SMELLIE MARGARET, abode Flemington, banked between 24th June 1816 & 28th May 1818.
SMELLIE WILLIAM, abode Motherwell, banked between 2nd July 1827 & 27th January 1829.

Don't know if this will be of use, I guess Isabel, Janet & Margaret were sisters?
At first I thought that this was a savings bank for children but some names have occupations against them, so adults and children, all adults? who knows.

[Worthingtons]

Lodger and Lud, thank you so much for your help and efforts in sharing information that I would probably in no way ever imagine to find!

Lud, I agree with Lodger, I didn't realise the graves would be difficult to get to (although I have done a bit of bush bashing myself the odd time - but not in bad weather).  Thank you so much your efforts and the stones are just amazing - I have never seen stones put in 'before' the deaths of people as a couple of these seem to be, really markers for a family plot.

Also Lodger, the information you have transcribed to here is just so helpful, thank you also for the time and effort to you have put in to help people all over the world.

Now I get to go and add a bit more information to my tree!
Karen

[lud]

Lodger,

Thank's for the comment, and like you!, it's great to assist fellow "Rootschatters", this is what makes this site the most friendly and helpful resource on line.
Cheers
Lud

[uggy]

Hi, I use UGGY as a nickname and have been trying to create a family tree for my wife. I had a very nice lady from Scotland giving lots of help but very suddenly in Aug 2013 everything stopped. I have some paperwork that she sent to me that an ANN SMELLIE Born abt 1772 married to THOMAS MARTIN my wife's family. She was said to have been born in Lanarkshire. Do you think by any chance that there might be a connection? I have 4 other family names that I am trying to find information about. They are all from Lanarkshire and 2 Families who emigrated to America. Best wishes from UGGY.

[JimmyM]

Hi Karen,
Just saw your post from December, and yes, you have found the right connection.  My grandmother, Helen Janet Thomson Meikle, known as Nellie, was married to William Henry Greggain.  Just let me know what other information you would like.
Brenda (JimmyM)

[Celtic2]

I just started on this site today and I don't think I have any blood connection to the Smellies but in the 1871 Scots census it appears that some of my family members- Adam age 15, Thomas age 13, Daniel age 8l Jemima age 6 and Margaret age 3, along with the matriarch Margaret age 48 Harper - lived in the household before immigrating to the US later that year. The Smellies listed are William age 46 as head, his wife Ellen age 52, daughter Agnes age 23 and sons William age 18 and John age 13.Is this you family and do you have information on the Harpers and why they would be in the household?