Francis HOWIE & Eliza CLUNES m 1862 Victoria

[patrexjax]

Hello all, I am totally puzzled by this family!      I know that these folks married in Victoria and had at least 4 children: Francis (Frank); Robert, Jessie, William.  The puzzle is the fact that Francis Howie was b. 1830 in Monquhitter, Aberdeen, Scotland and Eliza Clunes was born about 1830 in Santiago, Chile, a British Subject according to various UK censuses where I have found them, including 1881.  What I can't seem to grasp is WHY Francis Howie (an insurance agent in Newcastle-on-Tyne, NBL, England) picked up his family and went to England!  Especially since I don't know of any family that he or his wife would have had there.  I know this could involve some speculation, but perhaps Francis ran afoul of the law in Australia or some other tragedy struck the family?  Any and all in put on what this family did during their time in Australia would be sincerely appreciated as I am really out of my element in his area!  Happy new year!    Pat

[mum mum]

Hi
Marriage 1862 in Victoria, Children William 1863, BURR,Frank 1864 BURR, Robert 1866,BBert, Jessie 1868 ARARAT,William 1879 Ararat, Louisa May 1872 Ararat.
William died 1865, at BURR age 19 [I presume months] sorry, I can't find where BURR or BBERT are??
 so they were here until 1872 at least.
mum mum

[patrexjax]

Hello mum mum, Thank you for that information; it does help narrow things down.  AND, I have found Frances Howie in Monquhitter, Aberdeenshire with his widowed Mother and siblings in 1851.  So, the net is closing in!   Thanks again for the birth places!     Happy New Year to you and yours!  Pat

[mum mum]

Do you know what his occupation was? Perhaps there wes no work here for him.
I can check the newspapers and see if there is anything as well.
mum mum

Looks like this is him.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66340967

[Aussie1947]

Hi,

In 1857 there were gazetted a list of persons with dead letters being held with postage due and included was a Francis Howie of Geelong.

Regards
Gerry

[Aussie1947]

Some info from the Victorian Government Gazettes.

September 1860 a Francis Howie of Armstrong street Ballaarat was a 1 share holder in the Suburban Mining Company Ballaarat.

In 1861 the busines partnership of Francis Howie and John Martin farmers of Burrumbeet under the firm of "Martin and Howie" was dissolved by mutual consent on 1st June 1861.

In October 1865 a Francis Howie leased 571 acres, 1 rood & 8 perches in the agricultural area of Woodnaggerak in the parish of Woodnagerak, Victoria.

The 'Burr' in the births was probably Burrumbeet.

Gerry

[mum mum]

Hi
I can't seem to find anything on Trove after around 1864. can anyonne else find anything?

mum mum

[patrexjax]

Hello all, While I stepped out for a while, you have all been quite busy!     In Scotland, Francis Howie's family were farmers and agricultural laborers.  Upon his return to England, Francis is listed in the 1881 census as an "insurance agent."  I am trying to find him in the business directories in Newcastle for that time frame....I will let all know of the outcome on that!  Thanks to all for your input and help.  It does appear that he left Scotland and arrived in Australia sometime after 1851 census and before 1860.  I have not found him on a ship's list.....    Happy new year to all!   Pat

[mum mum]

Hi
On the 'Yorkshire' June 1873. Francis Howie, 40, Jessie 5. infaant with 1, Robert 7, Frank 9, Willie 3, mrs 36.

http://access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide023.jsp

Public Records Office Vic digitised indexes. Go to Index to Outward passengers, search for 'Howie' for some reason the link to my search relults wont work.

mum mum