Birth Records..Wisconsin 1849

[Whatz]

I am a newbie and live in South Australia so how can I find out the birth date of Ann Maria WHITTAKER who I believe was born in Green Co. Wisconsinc.1849. She appears in the October 14,1850 USA Federal Census as Ann M aged 1.

[barryd]

Green County, Wisconsin did not start registration of births until 1872. That is quite early for an American State. Daughter of William Whittaker (Ireland) and Maria Ann Dowling (England), Ann Maria Whittaker (Green County, Wisconsin) is well documented, including her parents births, numerous times but no one has managed to give her a birthdate, only the year 1849. familysearch.org (old version)

Likewise a marriage for parents in Wisconsin 1848. Just a year - no day

The only possible English marriage is in Manchester, England with two people of similar names married 1844, William Whittaker and Mary Dowling. Free BMD.

[Whatz]

Hello Barryd, May you have a wonderful healthy and blessed New Year,
I tried sending a message yesterday to thank you for your reply to my enquiry, but as a 'newbie' am still hopeless in understanding RootsChat.
Your reply raised more questions.- We only have William Whittaker's Baptism date as Februart 13, 1808 would appreciate birthdate . I have a record of Maria's birthdate April 7, 1813.

Also was the Whittaker's name shown as a 1xt or 2xt Whit(t)aker--In America they seem to use 1xt whereas in Australia they used 2xt. Their copy of Marriage Certicate shows William as a 1xt Whitaker when they were married at St Pancras (Old Church) Middlesex London July 24, 1847.

Thanyou again for your help...Whatz

[barryd]

William Whittaker, born 1808, Balbriggan, Dublin, IRELAND 
Death:   30 Sep 1886, Dowlingville, South Australia, Australia 
Burial:   5 Oct 1886, Kapunda, South Australia, Australia
 
Maria Ann Dowling, Birth:   15 Apr 1813, Chew Magna, Somerset, England. 
Christening:   18 Aug 1820 Puckington, Somerset,  England, 
Death:   29 Jun 1905, Dowlingville, South Australia, Australia 
Burial:   31 Jul 1905, Kapunda, South Australia, Australia
 
Whittaker and Dowling were married 24 July 1847, St. Pancras, London. The very day that Brigham Young arrived in Utah.

Parents of Maria Ann Dowling
George Pyke Dowling and Ann Biggs

Then there is a jump to Australia of George Pyke Dowling Whittaker, born 7 April 1853, Wisconsin (probably Green County). In the "In Memoriam" column of the Adelaide Register as ....WHITTAKER.— In sad and loving memory of our dear husband and father, George Pyke Dowling {Whittaker}, who passed away  7 March, 1901.

George's parents were William and Maria Ann Whittaker. William had made the sea crossing from Ireland to England, from England to America. From America to Australia. Ann Maria Whittaker is beieived to have died 1862 (where?). The majority of Parish Records have a baptism date but no birth date. The church recorded what had been done i.e. the baptism but not the birth in most instances.
 
The family is well documented on ancestry.com and family search.org

[Whatz]

I am sorry Barryd I should have filled you in that I have the details you show, except William Whittaker's actual birth date and his daughters Ann Maria's 1849 birthdate in Wisconsin . Of course some of those LDS records are incorrect.  William Whittaker, a protestant, was  born in Offaly, from where he left probably in his early 30's to become the coachman for the C of E Curate, Reverend George Pyke Dowling at Puckington in Somerset Co. Uk.
.........Maria was the 7th child and was unmarried when her father died Dec 16, 1843, her mother had died many years before in childbirth. The Rev GP Dowling owned property over several English Counties, so his estate had to be settled in London. Family had to come from from Van Diemens Land (now known as Tasmania an island Australian State), so the administration of his estate was not finalised until 1847 after which Maria Dowling and William Whittaker married in London on July 24, 1847 and soon after they migrated to America and took up land in Green Co, Wisconsin, where I visited 20 years ago.
........In 1859 -60 they sold up in Wisconsin and the whole family, of William and Maria with the 1 daughter and 3 sons moved to Washington, Washington Co. Kansas where they took up land. My understanding leading up to the Civil war, Irish imigrants in Illionois and Wisconsin were encouraged to moved to Kansas to build up Northerners to counter the Missouri southrners who were moving into Kansas. Also possibly you could buy 500 acres of land in Kansas for what you could sell 100 acres in Wisconsin.
..........In 1859 a wealthy 2nd cousin, a James Whittaker in South Australia died in a ship wreck and William Whittaker, a relative, was eventually tracted down in Kansas and  encouraged to come out to South Australia and claim the realestate which was generating 500 pound yearly rent , a large amount in 1860.
..........I believe, but not sure, that their daughter, Ann Maria may have died in Kansas , plus the fact that Maria had at least 2 sisters living in Australia.  I know Ann Maria  appeared on the Kansas 1860 Census, but she was not listed as being a passenger  when late in 1863 the family left New York on the Saint Magnus to sailed to Australia arriving in March 13, 1864.   So that is the story which is bit different from the LDS records.  John W