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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 December 11 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again, Jim. That last bit nails it, I think.

This will be great news for a cousin in Oz who is a direct descendants of the Brownlees in Headlesscross.
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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 January 12 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Yes Alexander Brownlee who married Jane Walker and James Brownlee who married Lillias Barrie were bothers and both were sons of James Brownlee and Martha Thompson. I am descended from Alexander and would be pleased to exchange info with you.

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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 05:34 BST (UK) »
Thoughthis post is old, l though l would comment.  l am not related to the Brownlees of Cambusnethan, but the posts have been very interesting as my great grandmother Sarah Docherty was listed as a servant in the household of John and Martha Brownlee in the 1881 census for Headless Cross. She was 19 years old and was born in Wishaw. You have all done a marvellous job of recording your records from Australia, Canada, U.K. and U.S.A.  I was born very near Cambusnethan but now live in Canada.  So far, l have not been very lucky at finding long-lost relatives who are interested in my research even a DNA test only revealed 4th and 5th cousins, so no close matches. My children, who are first-generation Canadians, have no interest either but l will plod on for the benefit of generations to come.
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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 January 20 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
"Brownlees of the Headlesscross Farm". This is my first post on this site so hopefully the required recipients will see this.
I have in my tree James Brownlee who was the proprietor of the farm. I'm actually adopted and my Birth name is Brownlee. However, should any be interested I have on an xl spread sheet the descendants down to the present day. The best part is how the name originated. That is in a book about the Newton Stone.
Regards, Peter Millar.
Brownlee at Birth. Millar Surname via adoption. Mother's Birthname was Pamela Theodora Pearce. Grand Mother remarried and Mother's Surname changed to Brownlee.


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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 February 20 21:22 GMT (UK) »
The lines of interest to me are

(1) John Brownlee (c1847-1923) and Janet Smith (1851-1920); Janet was my 3rd cousin 3 times removed.
(2) James Brownlee (c1829-1913) and Catherine Storry (1831-1918); Catherine was also my 3rd cousin 3 times removed, and first cousin once removed of Janet Smith.
(3) Lilias Brownlee (c1842-1922) and Claud Smith (1838-1925); Claud was Janet's elder brother, and therefore also a 3rd cousin 3 times removed to me, and 1st cousin once removed to Catherine Storry.

No, I can't get my head round all these cousin intermarriages either :)

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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 February 20 17:43 GMT (UK) »
James Brownlee, the proprietor of the Headlesscross Farm is in my tree.
Brownlee at Birth. Millar Surname via adoption. Mother's Birthname was Pamela Theodora Pearce. Grand Mother remarried and Mother's Surname changed to Brownlee.

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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 February 20 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Enclosed is a little some for all.
Brownlee at Birth. Millar Surname via adoption. Mother's Birthname was Pamela Theodora Pearce. Grand Mother remarried and Mother's Surname changed to Brownlee.

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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 February 20 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.

So you and I are connected through all three of the Brownlee lines I mentioned above, but we're not blood relations.

I do have some information about the Brownlee descendants who are related to me. PM me if you'd like to see it.
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Re: Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 February 20 18:20 GMT (UK) »
I have just spent a wet Sunday afternoon checking the burial records and MI book for Cambusnethan, looking for any connection to the Brownlie family of Headlesscross. The MIs were transcribed between 1982 & 1983. The burial records were transcribed several decades later, by different people. It would have helped the cross-checking if the records had been aligned to the MIs but this is not the case and it makes thing that much more difficult to marry-up.

This is what I have discovered.
The plot in the old churchyard (at Greenhead) has many stones with the name Brownlie (and its variations). Probably the oldest known stone dates back to 1726 (about 50 years after the church was built there) and this stone is on a large family plot which was used by the Brownlies over many generations. There are three headstones (there may be others buried) on this plot.

Stone 1. A flat stone, very worn. The inscription reads - "Margaret (Mar)shall died 3rd May 1726 and is the appointed burying place for Alexander Brounly and Janet Russell his spouse and their children 1733". (This is followed by a Latin inscription which has not been transcribed).

Stone 2. An upright stone. "James Brownlie died 31st December 1890 aged 91 years. His wife Lillias Barrie died 1st January 1887 aged 86 years".

Stone 3. A flat stone. "This is the appointed burying place of James Brounlie and Janet Waddell his spous. (Large carving of a malt shovel). James Brownlie, Headlesscross".

I think that stone number 3 is, because of the spelling, probably the oldest.

From the plot owners register (This register only begins about 1875 unfortunately)

Plot owned by James Brownlie, Headless Cross.
In the South lair - James Brownlie aged 90 years, interred 6th January 1891.
In the Centre lair - Lillias Brownlie, aged 86 years, interred 6th January 1887.

Probably in this same plot but before the Plot book was begun. This is taken from the gravedigger's day book.

Alexander Brownlie, farmer, Mains (of) Headlesscross, aged 65 years, married.
Parents - James Brownlie & Martha Thomson.
Interred in the old churchyard 8th February 1867.

This next entry is from the Plot Book, with no corresponding entry from the Day Book or MI to confirm parents names. All I can say is that it isn't very close to the Headlesscross plot, it seems to be on a Walker plot, the name Taylor appears on the stone there.

Plot owned by Alexander Brownlie and Jean Walker.
In the Centre plot - Jean Brownlie aged 90 years, interred 26th May 1892.

Lastly, not the old churchyard but the Private walled burial ground between the churchyard and the municipal cemetery.
Plot number 605.

Stillborn Female Brownlle
, Headlesscross.
Parents - John Brownlee and Alicia Pettigrew. Interred 16th December 1863.

Alishia Brownlee, housewife, Headlesscross, aged about 30 years, married.
Parents - William Pettigrew and Alisha Smellie. Interred 1st September 1871.

Plot 606. (I imagine these 2 John's are father and son?)

Martha Brownlie, Liberton, aged 2 years.
Parents - John Brownlie and Martha Dalziel. Interred 23rd October 1890.

Robert Brownlie, Edinburgh, aged 18 months.
Parents - John Brownlie and Martha Dalziel. Interred 14th January 1895.

Any questions?   ??? ??? ???

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