Brownlees in Headlesscross, Cambusnethan *completed thank you*

[Forfarian]

Does anyone happen to know whether Alexander Brownlee, husband of Jane Walker, and James Brownlee, husband of Lilias Barry, were brothers, the sons of James Brownlee and Martha Thomson? In 1851 they were both listed in separate households at Headlesscross, Cambusnethan, Alexander aged 50 and James aged 49.

(For the avoidance of duplication, I have asked the same question on the Rootsweb Lanark mailing list. I'll report as soon as I get any information from there or elsewhere.)

[CaroleW]

Did they both die after 1855?  Sight of their respective death certs will give their parents names

EDIT - both were still alive in 1861

[Forfarian]

I know I could look them up, but I am hoping that someone out there just happens to know. They're not my direct line, but several of their children married into families related to me, and I haven'y got any spare credits at the moment.

[MonicaL]

There are A/tree trees (I know Forfarian, I don't have to give health warnings on these  ).

Nothing there for Alexander as son to James and Martha, but James, husband of Lilias shows as a son. His death is given on 31 DEC 1890 in Headless Cross, Cambusnethan (birth on 3 APR 1800 in Cambusnethan). Wife Lilias is showing as having died on 1 JAN 1887 in Headless Cross, Cambusnethan - parents John and Mary (Forrest).

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Quite a bit of detail here regarding James Browlee and Lillias Barrie www.brownlee.com.au/Pages/Charts/Chart%2010164.html

Monica

Added: From on line details, Alexander's death is given as 5 Feb 1867 in Headlesscross Mains Cambusnethan. Looking at his children's names (with an early born James and Martha) certainly the couple you are looking at for parents would fit well.

[Forfarian]

Thank you, Carole and Monica. It does look as if they are indeed brothers.

I really wasn't expecting anyone to do any investigation for me - it was literally just on the off-chance that someone else had been looking at this family and happened to know.

Many thanks, both.

[Lodger]

Monumental Inscription from Cambusnethan churchyard -

"James Brownlie died 31st December 1890 aged 91 years. His wife Lilias Barrie died 1st January 188(*) aged 86 years".
(This stone was very worn when transcribed 30 years ago).

The next stone to that one is a "flat stone", probably one of the oldest in the churchyard (so anything from about 1650 onwards). It reads -
"This is the appointed burying place of James Brounlie and Janet Waddell his spous. James Brownlie, Headlesscross".
There is a large carving of what appears to be a malt shovel on this stone.

Couldn't find stones for Brownlee/Walker or Brownlee/Thomson.

I'll check the burial registers and get back with anythin I can find.

[Forfarian]

Thanks, Jim. Looks as if they were in Headlesscross for a very long time, then.

[Lodger]

This is what the various burial books throw up for the Brownlie/lee family of Headlesscross.
The records for the old churchyard are scant, there is a Lair Book that only begins about 1875, there are some entries mixed-in with the Day Book for the new cemetery 1861 - 1881. Some are also mixed in with the paupers burials.

So, from the Lair book,
One lair, owners listed as Alexander Brownlie and Jean Walker.
Interred in the centre lair - JEAN BROWNLIE, aged 90 years, 26th May 1892.
No other entries.

One lair, owner listed as James Brownlie, Headlesscross.
Interred in the south lair - JAMES BROWNLIE, aged 90 years, 6th January 1891.
Interred in the centre lair - LILLIAS BROWNLIE, aged 86 years, 6th January 1887.
No other entries.

From the Day Book -

ALEXANDER BROWNLIE, farmer, mains Headlesscross, aged 65 years, married.
Parents - James Brownlie & Martha Thomson.
Interred in the old churchyard, 8th February 1867.

The only other entries that may be connected are for some children of John Brownlee and Alicia Pettigrew of Headlesscross.

Lodger