Help finding Grandmother birth!!!!!

[Tony42]

Hello,

Here is the marriage certificate unfortunately doesn't give much to go on and the lack of imagination in the names doesn't help either.

17 August 1918 @ Penuel Calvanistic Methodist Chapel, Duffryn Street, Ferndale, Rhondda.

John Jones 36yrs         Widower - Collier - 28 Church Street, Ferndale - John Jones (deceased)

Hannah Davies 24yrs   Spinster - no occu - 20 Beech Street, Ferndale - William Davies (deceased)

Witnesses: Charles Davies & Thos E Horgan

Minister: Benjamine watkins

I've searched the 1911 census for the addresses listed there was a John Jones living in 28 church street then but whether its the same one I don't know.

From what I can gather John Jones was from the Llanddewibrefi area of Cardiganshire.

As for William Davies I have no idea.

Ant help appreciated?

Regards

Tony!!!

[silvery]

Hi
Looking at Nancy's death registration gives died 18th may 1985 district Pontypridd d.o.b given as 18th January 1920
birth poss
Nancy M Jones year 1920 1st qtr district pontypridd vol11a page 1648 mothers name -DAVIES
cheers cardiff

You may have to start with your grandmother's birth certificate.    Just to be sure of the maiden name of her mother.   

You may be on the right track, but you need to confirm.

If the age was correct on the marriage certificate for Hannah Davies, she would have been born about 1896.  But her husband was a few years older than her (may well have been a second marriage) and she may have altered her age upwards.   Not unknown.    Usually it get altered down 

If you have Hannah Jones nee Davies death certificate, who registered the death?   May give a clue.

[Tony42]

Thanks for the reply.

You are quite correct John Jones was a second Marriage to Hannah hence the age gap, Trying to get information from my family about this is not straight forward.

Apparently John Jones had a son called Zacharia by his first marriage I have tried looking for a Zacharia being born in west wales circa 1880-1890 but can't find anything does this help.

Also tried looking for the witness with the unusual name but not as unusual as you think.

Tony...

[silvery]

If John Jones was 36 in 1918 when he married he was born about 1882.   So he would have been unlikely to have a son born 1880 - 1890. 
Maybe 1900 to 1918 would be better years to search for a Zachariah Jones.   Didn't he live with John Jones and Hannah?   

Or do you mean John Jones b 1882 had a brother Zachariah?   

[Tony42]

No Zachariah didn't live with John and Hannah but from what I can gather John's first wife died so the question is who looked after Zachariah I expect that grandparents would have done this.

You are right the years I searched were wrong I have looked for the years mentioned but no Zachariah born in wales.

Tony......