Could someone date this please

[PrueM]

Oh yes, you definitely have to go by what she's wearing/her hair - I was just saying that CdVs were around later than the 1870s, is all 

And Jillie, Jim's right - you would only be able to tell the difference between scans of a CdV and a Cabinet Card if you knew what size the original was, because they essentially look the same    Added:  you could also tell by the ratio of width to height if you had a scan of the entirety of the card, but you don't, so that route is out (for interest's sake, a Cabinet Card is 4.5 x 6.5 inches = 1:1.4; a CdV is 2.5 x 4 = 1:1.6).

Sorry, we are getting into semantics a little bit on your thread, but only because your photo is an intriguing one! 

Cheers
Prue

[JDJames89]

Exactly, Prue, I was going to say that there is a ratio between the two sides that can usually indicate a cabinet card vs. a carte de visite. That said, I've heard that cartes de visites, while exceedingly rare after 1900, did indeed exist up to the 1920s or so. I think this can be chalked up to old photographers who either didn't have the money to update their equipment or didn't want to - the same way that there are film and Polaroid enthusiasts. It's an unusual carte de visite, but not impossible.

[Jillie42]

Sorry, we are getting into semantics a little bit on your thread, but only because your photo is an intriguing one! 

Cheers
Prue

No, don't apologise. I'm learning all the time. I'm just finding it a little frustrating that I don't have the original which would, I imagine, have told me so much more. I've got a couple of others photos of different Harrington's which were also sent. Same problem though - copies of copies. They've been labelled as the same person although I'm not convinced.

I've been in touch with Jayne Shrimpton who has told me she can date the clothing to an accuracy of 5 to 8 years for "Mary Harrington" so I'm awaiting her report.

Should be interesting 

[Jillie42]

Jayne Shrimpton has just got back to me. Apparently,

"the sides brought forward in front of her ears and the length pinned back behind into a chignon. This style was in vogue broadly between  1916 and 1924 but is most typical of the years 1918-1922.................A young woman, she was probably born around the turn of the 20th century and this photograph may well have been her 21st birthday portrait"

So there you have it. My grandmother was born in 1898 and her 21st birthday would have been in 1919. I can't conclusively say that the lady is my grandmother but there is no other Harrington female who fits into this time frame
 

[PrueM]

This woman's dress & hairstyle is late WW1 to around 1920.

Who needs Jayne Shrimpton when you've got Jim (and China and the rest of us)? 

Glad it has been sorted out, still intrigued by the apparent format of the photo and card, but there will always be the odd ones to prove the exceptions to the rule. 

Cheers
Prue

[Jillie42]

Who needs Jayne Shrimpton when you've got Jim (and China and the rest of us)? 

Cheers
Prue

Ah, but you got there first and Jayne only confirmed what you lot already knew

AND since you lot are so good can you give me some idea on the boys pictures I've posted