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Another one for dating please (+ restore if anyone would like to practice)
« on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello again

Here is another one of my local people collection, this time a bearded chap.  The only clue I have from the photographer's name and address is that according to a list that I have, J Carter was at 185 Newport Road in 1873.  I don't know how many years either side of this date he may have been there.  I will look for him in the censuses.

This photo is a little different from my others.  The oval portion is raised, giving an embossed feel.  It's all one piece of card with the photo pasted onto the front, but the oval shape has been pressed through from the back of the card to create the raised portion.  Does this make sense?

I love this photo.  The man's beard is magnificent!  Although it looks as though it has grey hairs in his beard, his face doesn't look very old to me.

There's not much to date regarding his outfit as there's not much of it visible.  I'm guessing mid-late 1870s but this is purely from the photographer's date and the style of  the design on the back, plus the rounded corners of the photo (am I correct in thinking these made an appearance in the late 1870s?)

I'd love the experts' opinions, and restorers please feel free to practice your restoring skills too if you wish!

All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Reddie, Gott, Woodcock, Randerson, Heslop, Dove, Sowerby, Henderson, Singleton, Butler, Kelly, Parkes, Pinkney, Sellers, Speck, Todd,  Wilkie and others.

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Re: Another one for dating please (+ restore if anyone would like to practice)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Looking more closely at this photo, I'm not convinced that the corners are intentionally rounded, after all.  They may have just worn away.  The upper and lower left corners are definitely square (looking at the front of the photo).  The right hand corners look slightly rounded but may have started off square.

Maybe it's earlier 1870s after all?

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Reddie, Gott, Woodcock, Randerson, Heslop, Dove, Sowerby, Henderson, Singleton, Butler, Kelly, Parkes, Pinkney, Sellers, Speck, Todd,  Wilkie and others.

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Re: Another one for dating please (+ restore if anyone would like to practice)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi whipby :)
Great photo!
The oval vignette, dark background/surround and embossing are typical of the 1870s - the design on the back dates to the mid 1870s and the lack of rounded corners would suit this date as well.

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Prue

Thanks for your quick response!  You've confirmed what I was thinking once I realised that the corners must have originally been square.  I agree, it's a cracking photo!

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Reddie, Gott, Woodcock, Randerson, Heslop, Dove, Sowerby, Henderson, Singleton, Butler, Kelly, Parkes, Pinkney, Sellers, Speck, Todd,  Wilkie and others.


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Agree with Prue,mid-late 1870's & he may be a Cleric,his waistcoat or what's visible of it looks like those worn by the Clergy.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
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Re: Another one for dating please (+ restore if anyone would like to practice)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 11:43 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jim, and now you've mentioned it, he does have a vicarish look about him!  Pity his beard is hiding his collar!

Japeflakes, that's clearer, it's easier to see his eyes now.  Lovely restore.

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All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Reddie, Gott, Woodcock, Randerson, Heslop, Dove, Sowerby, Henderson, Singleton, Butler, Kelly, Parkes, Pinkney, Sellers, Speck, Todd,  Wilkie and others.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 14:34 GMT (UK) »
How's This?  :)

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 15:01 GMT (UK) »
I've had a practise on your picture and thank you for the opportunity, regards, John.