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Edward ROBERTS
« on: Wednesday 28 December 11 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Interested in any information on Edward Roberts and Mary Ann Roberts (possibly nee Corfield). One known daughter Helena, born 1863 in Ballarat. Helena came to New Zealand around 1878 at the age of 15. Any ideas who she came to NZ with as I have no records here to check at the moment. I also have no information on whether or not Edward and Mary Ann emigrated to Australia from the UK before or even if they came to NZ with their daughter. I would appreciate any help. Thanks

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pauline,

Helena appears to have been registered as Ellen.

Edward ROBERTS & Mary CAULFIELD have 3 children listed in Victorian Indexes, all born at Ballarat.

Ellen in 1863….. Ref =  11926

Twins Thomas  Earl and Henry in 1865 …..Ref = 19922 & 19923

There’s no marriage listed for Edward and Mary in Victoria.



Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Dee, I will endeavour to search any online records for anything further.

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Pauline,

I cannot find any of their names on the index of passengers outward bound from Victoria, and there's no further mention of any of the family in Victorian bdm indexes.   :-\


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:14 GMT (UK) »



Where are you finding the information you have about Helena Roberts in NZ please?

If it is a  marriage or death certificate for her, can you give all the details included?

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen this, Pauline?
http://www.cousinconnect.com/d/a/1468
It's a bit old, but it does seem to be linked to what you are asking.

There are a couple of other cousinconnect mentions.


Dee     :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dee, will check it out. Looks promising. Pauline

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 12:51 GMT (UK) »



Where are you finding the information you have about Helena Roberts in NZ please?

If it is a  marriage or death certificate for her, can you give all the details included?

Hi, Helena (Ellen) is my g grandmother. I have her Death Certificate and her Marriage Certificate. In actual fact it only arrived in the mail today. My mother who is 83 now, wanted her mother's side of the family researched. While I am quite happy to give you all the information I have, can I ask why? and perhaps if I could have an email address I could scan and send copies thru to you.

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Re: Roberts
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 December 11 14:57 GMT (UK) »



If you are wanting assistance of a forum to add to your knowledge of Helena Roberts and her origins, and the later life of her parents and siblings, the information contained  in her marriage and death certificates will be useful.

I am reading your initial enquiry to include her family, and specifically, the circumstances of her arrival in NZ.


"....Any ideas who she came to NZ with as I have no records here to check at the moment."

"...I also have no information on whether or not Edward and Mary Ann emigrated to Australia from the UK before or even if they came to NZ with their daughter.."

A marriage certificate would have witnesses, who might quite likely be a close relative...sibling or parent. It should have name of parents, including mother's maiden name. You are giving this as "..possibly Cornfield", so daughter's marriage certificate might give you a name.

If it identifies a church, that church might be where any brothers/sisters in NZ might also marry.

Marriage or death certificate might give occupation of her father. If it is a trade, then sons might have same occupation, which could assist in locating them, if they also lived in NZ.

Because you are looking to confirm details such as place and year of birth, and you have an indication of a year of arrival, and her age, I was wondering if this had come from a death certificate. If it had then it is worth considering that death certificate information can be less that accurate, in which case the year of arrival, and age, might be out by a few years.

A death certificate will give a place of burial. If other family went to NZ with her, they might also have died and be buried in the area, even same cemetery.