Finding G Grandfather Thomas - need help!

[cwood91262]

BROPHY WILLIAM
Last address:   3 COPPINGERS ROW
Date of death   07 Jul 1872
Age   9M
This is a son of Michael Brophy and Anastasia Fetherstone.

BROPHY   ELIZA
Last address:   10 DRURY LANE
Date of death   07 Aug 1868
Age   6M
Her parents were Patrick Brophy and Eliza Kinsella.

BROPHY ANASTATIA
Last address:   3 COPPINGERS ROW
Date of death   08 Dec 1870
Age   1M
Another child of Michael Brophy and Anastasia Fetherstone.

Adee, the children we found for the Brophy/Festherstone marriage and the address at their birth are:

Mary, 1869, Clarendon Street
Anastasia, 1870, Coppinger's Row
William, 1871 Coppinger's Row
Catherine 1873, Coppingers Row
Michael 1875, in Island Bridge
Sarah, 1878, in Mary's Lane
Elizabeth, 1880 Island Bridge

The more I look at it, the more I like the possibility of Anastasia Fetherstone actually being the stepmother of Thomas.  If nothing else,  we keep circling back to this couple and there has to be a reason for that!   Michael Brophy and Anastasia Fetherstone married on 9 July 1868.  If Eliza was his first wife, he did not wait long to remarry, again, maybe a necessity if he had small children.  Does the burial record of that Eliza Brophy in 1868 reveal any additional information?

Cindy

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Cindy,

I think it would be one VERY BIG coincidence if Anna(stasia) wasn't the stepmother of Thomas. She was even the godmother at Thomas's sister's baptism.

It was not strange for a widowed man with young children to get remarried very quickly.

In saying that I think the marriage cert to Anastasia would need to be ordered to put everyone's mind at ease !

Good Luck !

Tara

[cwood91262]

Tara, that would be correct, IF we knew that the Michael/Eliza couple were the parents of Thomas.  All we currently have to go on is the church record of the marriage that lists Thomas' parents as Michael and Ann!  It will be a big boost if the marriage cert for Michael and Anastasia showed he was a widower, and in my mind would just about seal the deal.  But I have to agree, right now I am leaning to the scenario that Ann was his stepmother.  I don't believe a big amount in divine intervention in genealogy (despite what my mum said!) but there has to be a reason why Adee and I keep winding back up at the Brophy/Fetherstone couple!

Cindy

[hasta]

Hi All - and Cindy, I'm laughing my head off. I just switched on the lap top to reply to this now (sorry, have been super busy over Xmas)  and there you are !!  Is there no hiding ?

I was 100% positive on Anastasia Featherston after seeing the record that Tara posted on Elizabeth's birth. (Thanks !)
I had never seen that version before, just the FamilySearch version with only Eliza Heavy's name listed - I was pretty gobsmacked by that. (also that William Coffey crops up again as an informant to one of Anastasia's children later)

I was able to put this whole scenario to an older Brophy's over Christmas and he was not fazed at all and claims to clearly remember hearing Anastasia Featherston's name mentioned before.

So, I will of course get certs when the Office opens up again, but all the info fits perfectly. The only disparity I found earlier was the little Eliza in Glasnevin - (6M) seemed to be one Eliza too much. But if she is Patrick Brophy's child then that makes absolutely EVERYTHING fit into place.

As I said, I had completely dumped this line of inquiry, in favour of the Fitzpatrick lady - but could get no further and was hoping for a fresh perspective on it all - and sure enough I got it in spades. !!! So thanks to everyone who spent time looking (I know only to well - the time involved)
I found that Anne FitzP her husband Michael B and daughter Bridget were all deceased by 1910. (Typhoid) but still have an inkling that there may well be some connection there - so will keep them in the loop for now.

I did a little more digging before Xmas and it seems Michael Brophy died in the North Dublin Union Workhouse in 1894 from TB. So, not all happy there either.
 
And Cindy, Re: Eliza d.1868. No - all but one of the Glasnevin Records are single page with very little info.

If the certs do not show that Michael Brophy was a widower, when I get them I will eat my hat !!! I will let you know.
Thanks again everyone and a very Happy New Year.
 
@Cindy - I tried to find you some Shannon info over Xmas - but just got a few anecdotes and a couple of possible names in the younger generation - Will mail you.

[cwood91262]

Adee, you actually have my friend Louise in Stepaside to thank!  I'd been talking with her way back in the beginning (before you, even) about the Brophy/Shannon marriage and when we were talking today, she mentioned this whole thread!  Imagine MY surprise when I signed on to Rootschat and discovered it was you!!  It all falls into the small world category as Louise will no doubt tell you!

C

[hasta]

If the certs do not show that Michael Brophy was a widower, when I get them I will eat my hat !!! I will let you know.

So, just an update on what happened next !
I got the marriage cert of Michael Brophy and Anastasia Fatherston - which we believe to be his second marriage, but the rogue says he is a Batchelor and not a Widower!!
However by chance I came across this badly transcribed record of the marriage that had a photo of the actual register
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e8274d0024277
and I noticed some words on the Observations section in Latin (Vir antea nuptus fuit) - Graham on the Handwriting Board translated it to say ' He has been married before"  So thanks to a nosey priest we have a result.
Thanks everyone. Having earlier completely discounted Anastasia as the second wife I doubt I would have gone back over that ground without your excellent information.
Cheers.
A.

[taramcdsmall]

RESULT !

Well done you Adee on your perseverance when many others would have given up - congrats !

Tara