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Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« on: Tuesday 20 December 11 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi list,

Would someone please decipher the attached place name in Angusshire? I thought it was Lassy/Lasey/Casey but can't find it on Google when I go looking for it. Can you also tell me whereabouts in Angus it is? Is it far from Alyth, Perthshire?

Also, where would be the best place to search (online) for their marriage? I think they were married c1835, and I'm guessing in her county  :-\ Her maiden name was likely NICHOL.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby
ENGLAND
Essex - ALGAR, KETLEY
Durham - ASHMORE, TODD,  WALKER
Kent - CHEESEMAN
Worc/Staff - BRADLEY
also WILBY

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Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN,  CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE

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Re: Decipher name of town in Angus
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 10:01 GMT (UK) »
I am stumped! It doesn't look like any town, village or parish that springs to mind in the county of Angus (I cannot bear to write it as 'incorrectly' as it is in the original. Angus is, by definition, a county, so the compound version is tautological and grates on my sensibilities :'().

The best place to look for their marriage is the International Genealogical Index; it is a superb finding aid, but it is an index, not a primary source. The best place to find it is Scotland's People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, which is the only place where you can view and download a digital image of the original document.

The only marriage in the IGI that fits the bill is John Galletly to Margaret Binny Webster, which is recorded in both Forfar and Kirriemuir on 9 July 1837. There are also marriages of John Gellatlys to Margaret Howell in 1815, Margaret Robertson in 1829 and Margaret Christie in 1845.

You may be able to eliminate Margaret Binny Webster because she had at least two children in Scotland, David in 1841 and Betsy in 1849.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 10:10 GMT (UK) »
It doesn't look a whole lot like it, but could the mystery placename be Cray? 
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/gazplace?CCC=ANS,GR=NO140630,PLACE=CRAY,ID=99226

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Re: Decipher name of town in Angus
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm. 

Cray is not a town, or even a village. It is a (disused former Free*) church and maybe three or four houses.
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO1463

However it is not in Angus; it is in Perthshire, in the parish of Kirkmichael. Admittedly within a mile of the boundaries of the parish of Alyth to the south, and the parish of Glenisla, which is in Angus, to the east.

*The Free Church came into existence in 1843 so don't let anyone suggest to you that the apparently missing marriage record in about 1835 might be in the Free Church records!
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Re: Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 10:46 GMT (UK) »
First letter looks like an l (ell)

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Re: Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Could it be an interpretation of someone saying Eassie?

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Re: Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Could it be an interpretation of someone saying Eassie?

The first letter does look very similar to the 'E' of Elizabeth, so 'Easey' looks promising. :)

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Sorry all, was late when I posted and I didn't read the entry correctly - mistakenly saw Alyth as abbreviated form of Elizth ... oops. But whatever the words, the first letter may be the same in both.
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Re: Decipher name of town in Angus
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:38 GMT (UK) »
It doesn't look anything like Eassie, but you could well be right. I'd never have dreamed that that could be an 'E'! (I can't see the 'Elizabeth'.)
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Re: Decipher name of town in Angusshire
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 15:52 GMT (UK) »
It doesn't look anything like Eassie, but you could well be right. I'd never have dreamed that that could be an 'E'! (I can't see the 'Elizabeth'.)
I'm trying to imagine someone saying it to someone who doesn't know it...it looks like it could be 'Issay', or something similar - the more I look, the more the first letter looks like the one in Alyth.  Which I now think is written 'Ilyth'. 

I know people when I speak to them on the phone get confused between my A's and E's, so it's not that much of a stretch to go from A and E to I...

I have a slight north east accent, but not total Doric or teuchter by any stretch!