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MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« on: Sunday 18 December 11 06:25 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for information about James Milne (1810-1886) who married Elizabeth Yule (1812-1856). They married in 1833 and moved to Australia in 1854 with their family. Jame's parents were William Milne and Anne Mitchell.
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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 December 11 08:55 GMT (UK) »
1841 census
Dundee, Hospital Park No 7
James Milne, aged 30, a porter with Elizabeth, also 30 plus David, 7, Margaret, 5 and Ann, 3 months

1851 census
Liff and Benvie, 19 Blackness Road
James Mill, aged 41, a general labourer, born Dundee, with Elizabeth, aged 38 born Errol, Perthshire with David,  17, Margaret, 15, Catherine, 6, James, 4 and James' father, David, (?not William as you state?) a mason's labourer, born Glamis in 1788

Have found David Milne on the 1841 census, also in Hospital Park, Dundee, a carter, living alone.  I couldn't trace him on the 1861 census. 

(This info taken from Ancestry so check originals on Scotland's People to be sure ... sometimes Ancestry transcriptions not the best!)


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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 December 11 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Their marriage is indexed on LDS as:
15 June 1833, Dundee, James MILNE and Elizabeth YOULIE

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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 January 12 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help...
The marriage is the right one and pretty sure 1841 census is too. I was unable to find the 1851 census on Scotland's People but think that is correct too. William was James' father on James' death certificate but as you know that can often be wrong.
James and Elizabeth had six children...David, Margaret, Christina, Ann, Elizabeth and James but only David Margaret and Christina came out to Australia in 1854. I think the other children must have died before they left.
Thanks again,
Jan.


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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 January 12 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Re locating the 1851 census entry on SP ... if I search for 'James Mill' aged 41 with second person forename 'David' in Angus there is only one entry that shows ...

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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 January 12 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you...I have found it! I got a copy of the original and some things look right and some not. The last name is Mills, not Milne but I wonder if they are interchangable or just a mistake. The children's names are correct but there is a Catherine (born 1845) instead of a Christina...and Christina is my ggg grandmother.
What do you think?
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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 January 12 20:00 GMT (UK) »
there is a Catherine (born 1845) instead of a Christina

It wouldn't be the first time I've seen Catherine and Christina mixed up.
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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 January 12 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help...I will have to assume that the 1851 census is correct...very frustrating when you can't actually prove it either way!
Thanks again,
Jan.

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Re: MILNE and YULE families, Dundee
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 January 12 17:13 GMT (UK) »
See my comments on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,569900.0.html about the variation in surname.
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