Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9

[simonm1953]

Thanks Spidermonkey,

Yes, I'd seen his marriage to Sarah Jane Waring, but hadn't taken in his birth date on the Criminal record.  William and Sarah were living at no 16 and 10 Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin when they married - so, not quite 'the girl next door'!  It appears that Sarah Jane died 'on or about 4th May 1831'.  (See - http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/19211/pages/2063/page.pdf)

1810 certainly falls into the 'period' of my Newenhams.  They seem to have been a very fecund family having anything up to 16 children!  So, one more would hardly be surprising...

I gather that the 'original' Charles Burton Newenham was a naval officer who was killed and became a afmily 'hero' after whom several later children were named.  It's the 'Burton' and 'Newenham' names of the naughty William that makes me think he is related.  (The name Burton comes from the maiden name of Sir Edward Newenham's (1734-1814) wife Grace Anna.)

The transcript of William Burton Newenham's trial is at http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18440610-1582&div=t18440610-1582.

See also http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1846/feb/24/newenhams-divorce-bill

I've actually sorted my problem with the various Charles Burton Newenhams that was vexing me yesterday - but it would stil be good to sort out how William is related (as I'm sure he must be).

Simon

[simonm1953]

...and another reference to Sarah Jane Waring:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=f3kDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA300&lpg=PA300&dq=%22sarah+Jane+Waring%22&source=bl&ots=9Lkkaw5U1y&sig=kjqSEhoJbZ1SeeIUR7IxBJq4QG0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_jxdUZnfBa6S0QW3tID4DA&ved=0CCwQ6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=%22sarah%20Jane%20Waring%22&f=true

It is a report of the court case relating to the Marriage Settlement between SJW and William Burton Newenham.

[Aceh]

Hi Toni,

Further to my post on 7 March 13 on Frederick Edward Cullmer, 2nd son of Alfred and Ellen Wheeler; still nothing positive but FreeBMD has thrown up the following:

Marriages:
Frederick Edward Collimore, Eton, Q4 1889, 3a 912
Frederick Edward Colmar, Congleton [Cheshire], Q4 1898, 8a 543

Deaths:
Frederick E Collimore, aged 79, Eton, Q1 1946, 3a 1816
Frederick E Colmar, aged 86, Willesden, Q4 1958, 5f 195
Frederick E Colmar, aged 82, Epping, Q1 1963, 5a 148
There is also a Frederick Culmer, aged "[39]6", Camberwell, Q4 1902, 476. Fred was born 1867 so would have been  aged around 35 in 1902 and Camberwell seems more likely than the others, I would put this possibility top of the list.

I have much more positive information on Sydney, the 3rd son:

In the 1891 census (RG12/424, f 113, p 49) Sidney is living with his uncle Henry/Harry Wheeler, his aunt Rachel and their family, as his father Alfred had died in 1888, his brother George Cullmer and his Grandmother Ellen Wheeler, are both in prison, and his mother Ellen Elizabeth Ingram has escaped arrest and fled to New Zealand.

Sydney emigrated from England to Australia, where in 1909 he married Marjorie Ann Cowie. Sydney and Marjorie had had two children; twin boys Richard Alexander Culmer and John Eugene Culmer, who were born on 8/4/1910. These events took place in Gympie, southern Queensland. However the family were in Brisbane on around 11 December 1914 as this photograph title (photograph is not of reproducible quality) published in “The Queenslander” newspaper dated 12 December 1914 informed the public:
JACK AND DICK CULMER. Four-year-old twin soldier boys who marched in the patriotic procession on St. Andrew's Day, [in Brisbane] and who collected £15/11/8d from the crowd.

The family subsequently moved to New South Wales, where Richard Alexander, having served in the RAAF in World War 2, married Annie Ellen Wilson in 1946. Sydney Culmer died in NSW in 1954 and his wife Marjorie in 1947. John died in NSW in 1979 but nothing is known of Richard. The locations in New South Wales are unknown.

[sallyso]

I found the Claras in 1911 visiting William Gearing 12 Simla St, New Cross , Deptford, London
William Gearing is a married carman aged 38 although there is no wife present.
Clara S N V doesn't appear to be dancing anymore! She has no occupation
Clara J Q is 5 months  old

Hello, I'm a new member of the forum but had my tree here for a few years.  I did a google search today on Clara Susan Nelly Violet (my great-great grandmother) and found this post and others mentioning my great grandmother and grandmother.  I was brought up with Clara J Q  (Jane Quennie, my grandmother) and am trying to find out WHO my grandmother's father was as it was a big taboo in the family.  My grandmother Clara J Q was born in 1910 illegitimate and now I have seen this post about the Clara's being with a William Gearing I am beginning to think this may be her  father.  My grandmother told me she was brought up with Alfred James Urwin who worked for "The Times", her grandmother (Clara) died when she was young (12) and Alfred remarried. Her mother was in show business (dancer) was apparently very very beautiful and tried to get my grandmother into show business too. My grandmother ignored her wishes and married a "poor man" so her mother Clara S N V  told her "if I see you on the streets begging for food, I will spit on you for your stupidity and walk away".  My grandmother never ever saw her mother again and only found out years later that she married a Mr. Mcnulty and later died.

[toni*]

Hi Sallyso and Simonm1953 so sorry i've been away i had a baby in April and aimed to keep on top of this thread while on maternity leave no such luck,she doesn't like sleeping unlike her father who could probably sleep through a hurricane!

Simon i see Spidermonkey has answered your query if you want us to look further into WBN then I'll see what i can find.

Sallyso, if the child is illegitimate on the birth certificate it would be hard to prove without doubt that William Gearing was Claras father.

Alan, It was   my belief that Fred went with Alfred to Australia but we had no [proof of this, i think we exhausted all of the subsequent census in England / Wales it is also possible he went with GIC to America but he does not seem to appear there on the census either without the opportunity to search the Australian census online i am leaning towards this.  Unless he was one of the unknown people that washed up on the banks of the river Thames.

[toni*]

Hello

It has been a long time since I have been on RC but I am back!
although not for long.

I wanted to post this which what happened to Walter Dinney - the police inspector who arrested them all.

this is taken from the internet which I found by googling walter dinney

The rise and fall of the gentleman detective - Police Commissioner Walter Dinnie
 
Walter Dinnie was a detective of international renown who did much to modernise New Zealand Police. However his career was dogged by controversy and a toxic campaign of vilification which led to his downfall.

 Dinnie was born in Aberdeenshire on Boxing Day 1850 and joined police in the West Riding of Yorkshire at the age of 23. In 1876 he joined London's Metropolitan Police and after six years, at his own request, was appointed detective. In this field he thrived and was a Detective Chief Inspector by 1895.

He achieved international acclaim for his investigations of fraud and forgery.  His successes included the arrests of gambler and conman Charles Wells - the Man who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo - in Le Havre; and international jewel thief William 'Harry the Valet' Johnson, who stole jewellery worth £30,000 from the Dowager Duchess of Sutherland. In 1901 Dinnie was instrumental in setting up a system of registering and identifying criminals based on fingerprinting.

In 1903 the New Zealand government asked Dinnie to become the colony's Commissioner of Police. He retired from Scotland Yard amid generous praise, and with a generous pension, and set sail for New Zealand  aboard the SS Ruapehu on 23 April 1903 with his wife Fredericka, their five sons and Dinnie's niece Isabella Smith. 


A 1914 Dinnie family portrait, with Walter and Fredericka left and right,
 and Ted Dinnie seated centre

In his new role in Wellington he quickly introduced scientific and technological advances. He established a new Fingerprint Branch and placed his son Ted, who was trained in the techniques, into it. In 1904 Ted Dinnie became its head and remained with New Zealand Police until 1947.

Dinnie established the Police Museum with a 1908 memorandum requesting that items used in 'important crimes' be gathered at Police National Headquarters. It was intended as a training aid, a world away from the public attraction that is the museum at Porirua today. Ted Dinnie oversaw the collection until his retirement.
   
Amid the acclaim for the forensic successes, Walter Dinnie came under sustained public attack. There were revelations of inefficiency and scandal, such as the 1905 case of Dunedin constables involved in burgling premises they were supposedly protecting. The resulting Royal Commission exposed weaknesses in discipline. By 1907 the New Zealand Truth newspaper was spearheading a campaign for a new commission of inquiry. Discipline problems in Gisborne and bungled murder investigations in the South Island further hit confidence and by 1909 the Truth was openly attacking the 'dunderhead' commissioner.


In June 1909 an MP launched an attack on the police force, which he said was in a deplorable state. Prime Minister Richard Seddon leapt to Dinnie's defence but Dinnie sought a public inquiry to vindicate his name. The inquiry found New Zealand Police to be efficient and free from corruption, but Dinnie himself was depicted as incompetent. He published a pamphlet rebutting the findings but the Prime Minister announced Dinnie's resignation in December 1909.

After six months' paid leave, Dinnie was appointed president of the Mäori Land Board - responsible for managing leases of Mäori-owned land - in Tokerau District, Northland. He moved to Auckland but could not shake off political and public criticism arising from his lack of experience in such matters and the suspicion that the government had simply found him a cosy job. However, he held the position until 1914 when legislation did away with the post.

Dinnie sought a new official position but after a number of rejections returned to detective work, setting up as a private detective in Wellington. In 1915 he tried and failed to sue the government for wrongful dismissal. Despite his fall from grace, in 1916 Dinnie turned down an offer to be Assistant Commissioner of Police in Samoa because a former senior Scotland Yard officer could not serve under a Commissioner who was "entirely ignorant of police control or administration".

"Circumstances and egotism had led to a once internationally renowned detective ending his years in obscurity and bitterness," wrote Dinnie's biographer Richard S Hill, who sees him as "the archetypal gentleman detective".

[toni*]

Marriage:

CULMER— COWIE.— The marriage of Mr. Sydney Charles Culmer, fourth son of Mr. and Mrs. Culmer (England) and Miss Marjory (Cissie) Cowie, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Cowie, Brisbane (late of Gympie), was solemnised on. 2nd of June, 1909, at the residence of the Rev. J. B. Joimson, Briaban#.

[toni*]

i'm sure Robyn found this before so it's just to remind me really
26.10.1899
The Sydney Morning Herald
Cullmer Alfred or Eleanor please com Assets Finance Co. 424 Little Collins St. Melb, important

[toni*]

Friday 8th March 1946
The Telegraph Brisbane
Would any persons having knowledge of the whereabouts of John Eugene Culmer lately of Laisky Drive, Spring Hill, Brisbane please communicate with C J Pattinson Solicitor 239 Queen Street Brisbane.