Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9

[toni*]

•Calendar of Prisoners in Home Office records 1868-1929 (HO 140)
•After trial calendars of prisoners from the Central criminal court between 1855-1931 (CRIM 9)

Culmer George  CRIM9
Culmer Frederick William  CRIM9
Culmer George  Merionethshire HO140
Ingram Warren  - CRIM9
Ingram Warren - 1890 Middlesex HO140 
Ingram Warren 1891  Merionethshire HO140
Ellen Wheeler Crim9 & HO140

[toni*]

having seen the images of what i posted above its very good it gives dates arrested what for and trial dates and remanded in custody etc and also names other people invovled so when you view Warren Ingram you get the others indicted with him.
sadly no photographs but hey ho.

i am sure this will throw up more queries for anyone thats still on board with this.

[toni*]

All Southwark Police Court
Thomas George Trew aged 47 French Polisher arrested 7th Nov 1890
George Cullmer aged 25 Dealer arrested ditto
Warren Ingram aged 33 Bus Driver arrested 22nd Nov
Richard Capsey 30 Plasterer 28th Nov
George Loveday 44 Carpenter 2nd Dec
Ellen Wheeler 70 no occupation 3rd Dec

[Aceh]

Well done Toni!
Was there by any chance anything regarding those seemingly implicated but not arrested? I'm thinking mainly of Ellen Wheeler Jr of course, but also perhaps of Alfred Cullmer Jr, although Alfred's involvement in the "Fire Business", if any, would have been before he emigrated to Australia with his wife Eleanor in the early 1880s, so probably would not have been included.
I've made no progress on Alfred Jr in Australia due to non-availability of census data.
It's a pity there are no photos - the only Culmer photos I have are 2 of my great grandmother Rosina, both undated.

[toni*]

no nothing as far as i could see
Alfred Jnr was the correspondent in Australia we now know
i see Frederick William Cullmer was also arrested i have not seen the image - is this George brother we do seem to lose track of him.
There wasn't anything either for Frederick Whitehead which seems strange as i thought he was arested but turned informant

[toni*]

Trew Culmer Ingram and Ellen Wheeler were all found guilty
Capsey & Loveday not guilty but were to be tried for misdemenaour at the next session

[janan]

Ellen Ingram appears separately from the others

Jan 

[toni*]

so she does now why didnt i spot her ? she should have been one of the first ones i looked for.

I cant actually view the image though so i have no idea what it says

[toni*]

Edward Fish also appears on the FindMyPast database - he took up with Daisy after she left Freddy

Fish Edward b. 1870 year 1890 London HO140 (how confusing its like the early census numbers)
Fish Edward b. 1873 year 1893 ditto
and interestingly and maybe not connected as i cannot view the image
Fish or DAVIS Edward b. 1873 year 1893 London CRIM9

He found little Florrie the 6 year old murdered in the vicars garden - i saw the newspaper article