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Offline Little Nell

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Re: GROS numbers
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 December 11 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the same parents' names?  So the first Andrew died and they used the name again.  Unfortunately there are very few entries in the burials register and none in the time frame in question (http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/list-of-oprs-758to811.pdf).  You may need to look for a memorial inscription to prove this theory, but there is no guarantee that this will exist.

FR refers to the frame number on the microfilm version, see here:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/Content/FAQs/Questions/index.aspx?65

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Re: GROS numbers
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 December 11 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the same parents' names? 

Parents for both show as John Young and Sarah Dickson. Checking on IGI, a third Andrew Young shows as born to these parents on 12 May 1835, also Galashiels. Must have been an important family name to have been re-used three times, with likely early deaths of first two Andrews?

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Added: I am not even sure whether third Andrew survived much past an early age  :-\ From 1841:

John Young 50, baker
Sarah Young 45
Stewart Young 15
George Young 14
David Young 13
Jas Young 11

Address: Bank St, Galashiels
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Re: GROS numbers
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 December 11 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Sorry I didn't know about the copyright. Will try to remember in future.

The 3 Andrews are the mystery.  I have still to find marriage, death and census records for them.  The only thing I have found so far is an 1841 Scotland census for an Andrew born 1835, but the place of birth is Kelso, Roxburghshire, not Galashiels, Selkirkshire!

I may look for M.I.'s to see if they can add another piece to the jigsaw, and a walk round the cemeteries in Galashiels may help.

Thanks
Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie

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Re: GROS numbers
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 December 11 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ritchie

As Nell mentioned, the first two Andrews (1814 and 1825) likely died young given the re-use of the name. The fact that the third Andrew, showing as born in 1835, didn't show with the family in 1841, made me think that the last Andrew may also have died young and before 1841.

Always hard for this period confirming deaths with often the lack of burial/death registers before the start of official registration.

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Re: GROS numbers
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 December 11 11:42 GMT (UK) »
I received a reply from scotlandspeople today.  Basically, what they are saying is that parents can registar a birth as many times as they want, like where the parents live or where the child was born.  Marriages can be recorded upto 3 times.  In the grooms parish, the brides parish and there could also be banns.  So when an event is recorded seperately there will be more than one GROS number.

This clears up my original question, but, I don't know where exactly in Galashiels they were recorded.  The 1841 and 1851 census shows them living at the same address and at that time there were 3 churches within about 200metres. Maybe they attended one church then later on moved to one of the other churches and recorded their childrens names at both!

Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie