Transcription of the surname HAWTIN 1871 census

[alastair_banks]

Hi

I can find the following HAWTIN family in the 1861 and 1881 census, but I'm lost trying to locate them in 1871.

1861 Newington
Joseph HAWTIN Head Married 38 Male General dealer Newington, Surrey
Charlotte HAWTIN Wife Married 34 Female Newington, Surrey
Charlotte HAWTIN Daughter  15 Female Newington, Surrey
William HAWTIN Son 13 Male Newington, Surrey
Emma HAWTIN Daughter  5 Female Newington, Surrey
Joseph HAWTIN Son 2 Male Newington, Surrey


1881 Newington, St Saviour Southwark
Joseph HAWLIN (sic) Head Married 57 Male Dealer (Gen)
Charlott HAWLIN (sic) Wife Married 57 Female Dealer (Gen) Newington, Kent
William HAWLIN (sic) Son Single 33 Male Dealer (Gen) Newington, Kent
Benjamin HAWLIN (sic) Son Single 20 Male No occ

Any ideas on what HAWTIN may have been transcribed as?

Cheers

Alastair

[louisa maud]

I have looked at 1871, tried just a child's christian name and parents with no surname, nothing comes up, Hawkin I would have thought would have been a nearest surname but no luck so far

Where do you think the children married?, one might well have married about 1871 give or take a couple of years, that might be a good lead, or they could have been left off census or out when the census man cometh

Louisa Maud

[janan]

Here's one of the children

45 Manor Place St Mary Newington
Emma Hawtin Servant S 15 Domestic Servant Newington Surrey in household of
?Mr Chas Dix
RG10/614/17 pg27

Jan

[janan]

I've searched every way I can think of for the others but so far no luck - they are probably hiding somewhere in Surrey/Middlesex with my Joseph Childs also lost in 1871

Jan

[alastair_banks]

Where do you think the children married?, one might well have married about 1871 give or take a couple of years, that might be a good lead, or they could have been left off census or out when the census man cometh

Louisa Maud

Thanks for that.

The oldest child, Charlotte (who was born Charlotte Moore, by her mother's first marriage, but shown as Charlotte Hawtin in the 1861 census), is living in Orb Street, St Mary Newington in the 1871 census. She is shown as the wife of Joseph Belcher (another mystery, as I can't find a record of marriage for the couple).

Joseph Hawtin, who I can't trace in 1871 or 1881, reappears in 1891 in Townley Street, St Mary Newington.

[louisa maud]

All I have found are a few Hawtin baptisms for the following

Joseph 03/07/1864 
Benjamin  same date
parents Joseph and Charlotte
of 3 Neptune Court
at St John Walworth


Emma Louisa bapt 23/04/1856
born 19/11/1855

Elizabeth Hannah same bapt date
born 18/07/1853
St Peter Walworth

I feel sure they must have been left off census , isn't it annoying

I can't find a cross match marriage Hawtin to Belcher either, not everyone got married, we do assume all our relatives did marry in thepast but sometimes they were very poor and just couldn't afford it, youngsters nowadays think they invented "partners" 

Louisa Maud

[louisa maud]

these may be the deaths of HAWTIN seniors

Joseph  Sept 1881 St Saviour
Charlotte Sept 1883 St Saviour

LM

[Eyesee]

While looking for another HAWTIN family in the same area, I found them transcribed as HAUTIN. Have you looked using that variation.

Ian C