Can anyone decipher this Surname please

[mindarie]

My Greatgrandfathers marriage certificate and his signature.
I believe it is Engelbrecht, most of his children where christened Engelbrecht or Engelbreiht ( a transcription error I think)
What do you think guys?

Frederick

[Colin Cruddace]

Signatures are never easy to decypher as there is nothing to compare letters with, and I have a problem with the last 3 letters.

It looks like Engelbau/rka

Is it a Germanic name that might have been Anglicised at a later date?

[JDJames89]

My two cents:

I don’t believe the first letter is an E. It looks more like an I to me.  Also, if the name is something like Englebrecht, I would expect the third and eighth letters to look a lot more alike. Lastly, I think there was some sort of mistake or blotch in the last letters, which makes this hard.

My best guesses are Ingelbaum or Ingelbauch.

[barryd]

Possibly this marriage has been indexed. Especially if it was in England/Wales. If the wife has a British type name she may be found. A transcription of the whole certificate, including the date/place of the marriage should help to find both parties and the spelling of the name. 

[Alexander.]

Hi Frederick,

Is the signature that you posted from a GRO copy of the certificate or from the parish register? If it is the former, then it will not be the exact copy of his signature, just a transcription of the signature by a clerk.

Am I correct in saying that this is the marriage of David Emil "Engelburth"? I did a bit of searching online and this seems to be the man you have posted on other sites about. I take it that this certificate is from his marriage in 1879 to Sarah Wylie?

I have attached the parish register entry of the signature. This is the original signature which is very similar to the one you posted, but a little clearer. Not clearer what the letters are, just less smudged at the end.

Alexander

[barryd]

David Emil Engleburth (correct order of name and correct recorded spelling at the time of marriage only) (29) married Mrs. Sarah Wylie (widow) (23) on 27 August 1879, St. John The Baptist, Liverpool. Fathers George Engleburth and Samuel Landshaw. Free BMD and familysearch.org.  The website GenForum has details of this person. Born in Odense, Denmark. Posted by englebert who states that Engleburth's mother was an Englebrecht so can be found under her name.

[mindarie]

Thanks barryd,
I think that was a posting of mine about 6 years ago. I thought I had found my man then only to discover that he died 10 weeks later.
I have an Internment document from our National Archive saying my man was born in Hamburg in 1850, the name he was using then was David Engelbert. Many Germans in the UK around 1914 tried to disguise there German background, they where not very popular at all it seems.
Can you make out the revised signature sent by FreckNeale?
I still cannot make any sense of what it should read!
Frederick

[mindarie]

Alexander, Many thanks for that signature image.
It is much clearer than the one I had: but I still cannot make it out.
Regards
Frederick

[mindarie]

Alexander,
I would appreciate you letting me know how to access the Parish Registry entry you kindly posted for me. I would like to look at the image and what else is shown on the entry. I am also thinking that other children would have been registered at the same place and their entry's might reveal more details!!
Regards
Frederick