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court martiallled
« on: Wednesday 07 December 11 06:41 GMT (UK) »
i have just found out that charles reilly was court martialled for arson 20/8/1862 wellington somerset uk.
i can access the british newspapers to see if it was published.does anyone have any idea of what paper i should be looking at for that area..i can't find any wellington or somerset newspapers..
also any other ideas on how i could find his record.
thanks..

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 08:30 GMT (UK) »
  TRY WELLINGTON   'SHROPSHIRE'    U.K'

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

We have someone who was court martialled (in the Navy) in the 19th C and we got a copy of his record electronically from the National Archives.

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 09:29 GMT (UK) »
hi helgra
can you give us a birth year and place of birth for him please only i,ve looked in service / pension records and there are 28 charles reilly,s there so he may be one of them .

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Wellington in Somerset is near Taunton.  (There is also a town called Wellington in Shropshire.)

Some old newpapers covering the area are:

Taunton Courrier & Weekly Advertiser
Bath Chronicle & Weekly Gazette
Wells Journal
Western Gazette

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 11:43 GMT (UK) »
I'm a little confused by the other thread - that says he was tried in Madras - where does the info of Wellington in Somerset come from?

i am searching for a country of birth and any other details  for charles reilley or riley.aka reiley or retley.
he was born about 1844.i have his convict details but no country of birth-thinking usa..
came to west aust as a convict(OCUPATION,SAILOR) on the ship merchantman.convict  no 8117.
trial was in  madras 20/8/1862.sentenced to 14 years for arson.
he married emma bonser 1874 in west aust and died about 1888..
thanks ..helen

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 December 11 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi guys.  :)     David your query re Madras. The information Chas was convicted at Madras is found on the Australian Convict Index 1788 - 1868. Date 20 Aug 1862. A quick trip to the UK in chains?  ??? At a General Court Martial at Wellington, Somerset, England 20 Aug 1862, he was sentenced.  Ref: Australian Convict Transportation Registers, Wellington, Somerset, England. 14 years for arson, with William Larmour or Sarmors. Then transported from Chatham 14 Jun 1864 on the 'Merchantman,' bound for the Swan River Colony in Western Australia. Ref: UK Surgeon Superintendents Journals of Convict Ships Merchantman. All found at ancestry.com.

Be interesting to find where he was held for those two years 1862 - 1864.

The court martial at Wellington suggests he was in the Navy, his occupation listed as 'sailor.' Might also explain his tats.

The British India's Civil Wars c. 1848 - 1881, involving Madras, suggests Chas was putting his political two bobs worth in...

Dates on these records indicate he was born 1841/1842.  I suggest he was Irish.

Information on the Royal Navy and the court martial would be interesting. The newspaper directions are very helpful!  :) :)

Cheers
Jud
Bonser, Bonsire France, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire, Australia
Burton, de Bourton, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire
Woodthorpe, de Woodthorpe, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Essex, Suffolk

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 December 11 08:00 GMT (UK) »
Just to add to the confusion of where  ::) Charles Reily was sentenced under a General Court Martial at Wellington, Somerset on the same day having been said it was Madras....... :-\ and Charles being a sailor, as was his father.....there was a ship named 'Madras,' built 1827, half burned 1844, "lost by fire," but, said to have been listed 1860 (but not 1864)  to the Mercantile Navy, registered London.

http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/maryport/madras.html

Can anyone make sense of this please? The ship and the sentencing, I mean, not the email....then again... :-\  Did it live to sail again with the Mercantile Navy, after having been said to be "lost."  ???

Hats off to those who looked a little deeper at Charles's tattoo's,  :-* definitely a sailor, and had sailed around Cape Horn, ( ship in full sail), some USA convictions with the American Coat of Arms.........

Would appreciate any comments.

Jud
Bonser, Bonsire France, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire, Australia
Burton, de Bourton, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire
Woodthorpe, de Woodthorpe, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Essex, Suffolk

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Re: court martiallled
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 December 11 13:01 GMT (UK) »
well thanks judy.
so thats true ?if they have the ship in full sail tattoeed on their body-that means they have sailed around cape horn? is that right?
i'm learning every day..
amazing stuff..
helen