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[Spidermonkey]

Trying to make sense of everything!

Charles Remnants (bn . 1782) marries Phebe Gates (bn c. 1780) in 1801.
Their children are:
Emily bn 1801
Charlotte bn 1804
Edward bn 1806
? Sally bn c. 1811
? Harriet bn c. 1816

Emily Remnants (bn 1801) marries Robert Whitham (bn ?) in 1821
Their children are:
John bn 1820 (perhaps dies?)
Anne bn 1823
? John bn 1825

[Spidermonkey]

Emily Remnants (bn 1801) marries Robert Whitham (bn ?) in 1821
Their children are:
John bn 1820 (perhaps dies?)
Anne bn 1823
? John bn 1825

Anne is my 3xgt grandmother, and marries James Richardson

John marries and is Whitby for the 1861 census (and presumably by 1849 which is when his eldest child (acc to 1861) is born:
John (1849 Whitby)
Charles (1851 Whitby)
William (1856 Whitby)
Anne (1853 Whitby)

[Spidermonkey]

Charles (bn 1851) marries Sarah Jane ? between 1871 and 1881, but files for divorce in 1884. J 77/317/9499

[Captain2]

Ok.. so you now have the connection between the Whitup's and Remblents and you know that Anne was with her grandparents by 1841, with Robert (her father) listed as not deceased in 1848, my guess would be that her mother Emily may have died earlier and that is why Anne and her brother John are with relatives. It's a mystery as to where Robert is in the 1841, but given the variations in spelling, he is probably out there somewhere, we just haven't been able to find him yet.   So that is the first part hopefully solved for you 

I had wondered about Phoebe Gates and looked to see whether her and Patience (Walpole)  were  perhaps sisters. Nothing to go on yet.  I have found Phoebe Gates. da. of John Gates & Elizabeth Wall. . 8 November 1784. All Saints, Norwich, Norfolk in FreeReg with a possible elder  younger brother John b. 1793, but no Patience, so maybe not.  The Walpole connection may not be there ofcourse, that may be a red herring too, they may just have happened to be lodging together as there is a 70 year old  Samuel Morse in the same household with them all in 1841, we know he is not Phoebe's father, but he may be Patience's, or he may just be a lodger..

More food for thought....

[toni*]

i'm not enitrely convinced whitup / whitham its just a feeling i have

[toni*]

i think we need to trace the people from Annas 1841 census household as much as we can back / forward etc
i know you've all made a great start even with a strong Norfolk accent i a m not sure that Whitup and Whitham could be mistaken the endings sound different
obviously it could have been mistranscribed my partners surname is Hickman which stated as Hickmar Hickmer etc if they were illiterate then they may not have been able to say its Whitup not Whitham written down or vice versa.
unless its pronounced whitem (whit em)
is there a Whitup family around before these appear? or a Whitham family after they name seemingly turns to Whitup ?
 

[toni*]

Patience Walpole as far as i can see is
1841
HO107; 784;  16;  8;  9;
1851
HO107;  1809;  8;  9;
1861
RG9;  1201;  130; 18;
died
 Patience Walpole
: Jan-Feb-Mar 1863
 Erpingham
 Norfolk
 4b
: 35 

i see the 1841 census actually separates the houeholds that are living in that house
there doesnt appear to be a separation mark between Anna Whitup and Samuel Morse maybe thats because he is on the next page or maybe not?

 

[toni*]

death

John Walpole
: Jul-Aug-Sep 1846
 Erpingham
 Norfolk
13
 78 

[toni*]

Seems John & Patience had a whole lot of children

Jonas ch 18.05.1817 Norfolk
William 13.03.1827 Norfolk
Elizabeth 05.10.1815 North Walsham

actually not a lot just repeated a few times in the index 

however it seems that a John Walpole and Patience Matthews had children of the same name

William ch. 09.06.1814 also 09.07.1814 North Walsham
Jonas 09.06.1814 also 09.07.1814 North Walsham
Elizabeth 05.10.1815 Walsham North