Marriage: George Beck to Mary Ann Bell, in Belfast

[genid]

Many thanks Aghadowey - I have the birth and marriage certs. I also could not find any birth for a George Beck, or any other names born to the couple George Beck and Mary Bell.
I was trying to get a response from the original sender 'grindstonedave', as he would appear to be directly related to the family, and would probably want the info I have.
I have all the info for Georges siblings ( four) and his fathers siblings, and back to the original Beck settler in the Donegore area - John Beck, born c 1680's, to a John Beck of Downpatrick born c 1650's - died 1718.

[BronwenS]

Hi

I have lots of information on the Becks but am unsure if some of it is correct.  Although I know for sure that some of them are connected.   Ultimately I am following the Becks who came to Aotearoa John Beck 1823 moved to live in Aotearoa from Ballynaskeagh, County Down, Ireland.  Him and his wife died in Aotearoa.
John Beck died 13 November 1884 aged 53, Otautau, Otago. Buried Plot 8 Old Cemetery Block XVI Otautau, Southland
Elizabeth Beck (Gillespie) aged 64 died 7 June 1897 of Ballochmyle, Wairio, Otago. Buried Plot 9 Old Cemetery Block XVI Otautau, Southland



The Beck’s originally came from Aachen, Germany and I cannot be absolutely sure that these first three connect with Willem Beck of London.

Peter Beck of Aachen 1445c had one son Peter Beck of Aachen, Germany
Peter Beck married Katherina and had one son Joachim/Abraham Beck 1550c Dutchy of Julich, Germany
Joachim/Abraham Beck (1550c born in the Dutchy of Julich) had one son Willem Becx of London

Willem Becx / Wyllem Becks of London married Margaret Warner born in Ireland and they had three children William Beck, Adam Beck 1630c Bellimacally, Mullaghbrack, Armagh-1699c Mullaghbrack, County Armagh, Ireland (m.Margaret Walker c.Robert Beck 1690, Adam Beck 1692, William Beck 1694), John Beck 1650 Mullaghbrack, County Armagh, Ireland.

John Beck (1650c) married Elizabeth Strettell (18 June 1655 Mobberley, Cheshire) about 1675 Mullaghbrack, County Armagh, Ireland.  They had eleven? children: John Beck 1675c-1740c Donaghcloney, County Down, Ireland (m.Martha Darson), Robert Beck of Lisburn and Downpatrick, 1680 Lisburn

If you a Beck pursuer then please advise me about this.

Many thanks
Bronwen
Aotearoa

[genid]

Bronwen - many thanks for your message.
John Beck - I have his home area as Scarva, Co Down, married Elizabeth Gillespie in Bathgate, Scotland on 19 July 1855.
I corresponded with a few others in New Zealand re his descendants - of which there is quite a few.
I have a Bronwyn Leigh Shanks - daughter of Brenda Marie Ward and David Owen Joseph Shanks, would this be you ?  Although i have most of the dates for BMD up to about the late 1980's early 1990s, I do not have any place information.
The earlier information you have was from the pamphlets of a Re. William Beck, who conducted most of his research in the 1st world war era, obviously this contains some brilliant research, but also some woefully incorrect data.
John Beck born about 1650 in Armagh - did NOT marry an Elizabeth Strettell, there is no proof of this fact. However there is proof of a Quaker marriage of a John Beck to an Elizabeth Robinson in late 1690's or early 1700' ( I have a copy of it somewhere) and details of the births of 4 of their children, with the same names and in order of birth as in John's will.
The Strettells were only very good business friends of John Beck, in the lined trade.
The seal used on the will of John beck and a Thomas Beck of Belfast can be traced in different forms, to the Becks of Holland.
I am descended from Adam Beck of Kircubbin, Co Down, he is mentioned in several documents including the early muster rolls of 1629/33 for men aged between 18 and 50 yrs of age - must have been born 1579- 1611, he is mentioned in the later 1663 subsidy rolls with a son John, so Adam must have been born 1579 - to 1611, and probably in the early 1600's. John his son born 1613 to 1647 so again probably around the 1630's.
I can find no proof my Adam Beck was related to either John of Armagh or Thomas of Belfast.
The Rev William was using the 4 brother story to make them brothers.
I would welcome any date you would have and would gladly exchange whatever information I have.
David Beck

[BronwenS]

Many thanks for responding.  I see the will names 9? of the children. 
son Robert £50 stg. To daughter Ruth £10 stg. To second son Thomas £50 stg. To daughter Abigail £40 stg. To son Samuel Beck of Lisburn £50 stg. to daughter Elizabeth £40 stg. To son John Beck of Dunagore £ 50 stg. To daughter Ellen £40 stg. To daughter Mary £40 stg. 

I am not familiar with any of the people you mention.

Please contact me by private message and I will respond, a bit disheartened by the Strettell connection, I had done a lot on their ancestors.

Nga mihi nui (very best wishes)
Bronwen