Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753

[dunvr]

Agree that Sarah Perry may not be because as you say she could have been a widow remarrying.

I think 35 miles is not that far and it is a definite possible that George Perry of Cheveley could have been born in 1670 in Steeple Morden, perhaps his spouse was born in Cheveley so he went to Cheveley to live after he married?

Proof would be great but I'd be surprised to find it

Can anyone see any other possible births for George in Cambs just bef 1680?

Or provide a marriage record for George Perry?

[bedfordshire boy]

I think that Steeple Morden and Cheveley being on opposite sides of the county makes it unlikely that this is the right George. There are two burials of a George Perry in Steeple Morden - 24 Apr 1702 and 16 Sep 1706, possibly the father and son that you found.

Bear in mind that Newmarket is in Suffolk, not Cambridgeshire, so you need to be looking in Suffolk too. Thomas and Anne Perry baptised a son George in Newmarket in 1736, which may, or may not, be relevant.

If Mary Sabey was from Cheveley they'd have probably married there, rather than in Steeple Morden. But Sabey was a western Cambs name, with virtually no occurrences in the eastern side of the county. Most Sabeys, including some of my ancestors, were from Bedfordshire, adjoining Cambs to the west.

[Selina]

As  bedfordshire boy says the two Cheveley bapts are on familysearch -
Thomas Perry 8 Sept 1801 and John Perry 15 Aug 1703.

There was a George Perry buried at Cheveley on 28 July 1708, no details.

The Sarah Perry that married Thomas Tweed on 7 January 1713 was a widow and he was a widower.

There are later Perrys in Cheveley but those are all that appear of possible use to you.

I can't see a suitable Cambs marriage for George Perry (or for a John Perry).

Also as bb says, Newmarket is partly in Suffolk.  I used to be told that the county line ran up the centre of the main street, don't know how true that is/was!

However there are two Churches in Newmarket, they are on opposite sides relative to the High Street and I believe St. Mary's is regarded as being in Suffolk with All Saints being in Cambs.  So I think it would be a good idea if you can find someone to check St. Mary's parish registers for you, also St. Agnes at Exning.

A quick search on http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ brings up a reference to Thomas Perry of Cambridge bankrupt in the Ipswich Journal on Sat 18 November 1758.
You might want to read some of the last comments about the site on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,569027.0.html
before you subscribe.

Selina

[Selina]

See http://www.rootschat.com/links/0i22/
a reference to Thomas Perry.

This record was dated 1775 but the man who is the subject of the document, a Nicholas Aungier, is aged 64 so imagine that the information is about his apprenticeshire quite some years previously.

Click on <Prev to see another mention of Thomas on Record 2.

Selina

[bedfordshire boy]

Good find Selina. The dates would tie up with Thomas baptised in 1701

The fact that Thomas is described as tailor and capmaker adds weight to John in London capmaker to royalty, being his son.

David

[Selina]

Just looking on Ancestry, there are a couple of references that relate - not sure about copyright so won't put them on here!

Under "Suffolk, England Extracted Parish Records".  Search for Thomas Perry, there are two where under 'Place' Newmarket is mentioned, those look applicable.

Selina

[dunvr]

On the link http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

Talks of Thomas Perry and his brother 1762, I am trying to find the article but have to go through the whole newspaper to find it:

The Ipswich Journal
Page 1, 3, 4 Miscellaneous
The Ipswich Journal
Sat 10 Jul 1762
Suffolk, England
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    “ alled Newmarket Great Coats j he being a Proficient in the whole by being with his Brother, the faid Thomas Perry, at his firft inventing them . many Years ago I Having done all Bufmefs ia the Time of his long Illnefs for nine Months, aad having giv ... ?

The other two apprentice mentioned I agree these men will have been apprentices to Thomas Perry pre 1762

Newmarket is confusing being between Suffolk and Cambs but I am sure there are Perry's there. SOG may have bdm for them. I note the familysearch.org site is not complete. As I had a researcher search for other ancestors of mine in Suffolk, he found many names not even shown online anywhere. So I may contract that researcher to search Newmarket and Cheverley

I'll keep looking at all the links everyone is kindly providing as there is bound to be more info

Thanks for all the help thus far

The two George Perry's burials could be infant sons of any other of the Perry's in Cheveley so I am not ruling out that 1670 baptism either

[Selina]

It looks to me that Thomas Perry the tailor of Newmarket had sons John and Thomas who were both born at Newmarket and both went to Bury School.
Possibly also daughter Ann.

When John was admitted to Bury School in 1736 Thomas senior was still of Newmarket but by the time Thomas junior went to Bury in 1745 Thomas senior was of Cambridge which narrows down his movement from one town to the other a bit.

Selina

[dunvr]

The 1762 article says Thomas Perry of Trumpington Street, in Cambridge Newmarket, but late of Cambridge, being deceased

Sarah Tweed is related to Thomas as Joseph Tweed and Sarah Watkins a daughter as well as Ann Perry another daughter of the said Thomas Perry esq

I have seen Watkins name in the will of John Perry the cap maker

Joseph Tweed was also a cap maker and tailor with Thomas Perry

John Perry had a shop in the Strand and a room at the Queens palace as he made hats for her