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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 December 11 20:54 GMT (UK) »
But where did Thomas Perry that married 1724 come from?
See Selina's reply #6 below

Where did you find his 1724 marriage and where did it take place?

You say: if you google "Thomas Perry" 1658 Cambridge you will find an article that says he was bankrupt in 1658 - I have, it produces 4290 hits. We don't usually work like that. If you give us the url of the site you've found we can find it quickly.

There's been a lot of speculating, flights of fancy, and assuming, much of which has been easily disproved. Which of these Perrys is the most recent where you have proven facts? Then you can work backwards logically a generation at a time, rather than shooting off three generations earlier on wild goose chases into Gloucestershire.
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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 December 11 05:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

I feel that the births that Selina found maybe the correct ones

"Thomas Perry baptised at Cheveley (4 miles from Newmarket) in 1701, son of George.  Another son of George, a John Perry was baptised there in 1703"

Selina can you list the full baptism dates? Is there a marriage for George Perry and other info? Are there further children to him?

Proven I have definately got in my line:

John Perry, son of Thomas Perry of Cambridge, first maker of jockey caps and hunting caps and what are called Newmarket coats for gentlemen and ladies

The fact that John calls them Newmarket coats suggests he is from Newmarket. Definitely says he is son of Thomas Perry of Cambridge.

Assumption is Thomas Perry of Cambridge is the one born 1701

The 1724 comes from ancestry.com and is exactly written as shown here

Marriage
Thomas. Perry, of Newmarket, s. M., 23 years, & Ann Reeve, of Soham, s. W., 22 years. 01 May 1724.

It seems Ann was from Suffolk, Thomas was from Newmarket, (and I assume the one in Cambridge)

as Selina wrote Newmarket only 4 miles from Cheveley I feel the dates perfectly fit

Not to mention the 1725 apprentice John Perry to master Thomas Perry, perhaps being a tailor

So appreciate if we can work on this assumption trying to find more on George Perry of Cheveley and his family

 

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 December 11 06:00 GMT (UK) »
also from ancestry.com

Name: Thomas Perry Dates: 1751-1775 Location: Cambridge Occupation: taylor clothing(m) Gender: Male Address:

Address(Es): Cambridge

Occupation:

Occupation(s): taylor, clothing(m)

personal notes:

Notes: Bankrupt

Source Date: November, 1758 Source Info:

Gentleman's Magazine, November, 1758


Has anyone got access to the Gentleman's Magazine and could check for Perry's in it 1700 - 1762?

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 December 11 06:17 GMT (UK) »
You said originally he was bankrupt in 1658. Now you say 1758. Which is correct?
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 December 11 06:33 GMT (UK) »
opps sorry 1758 is correct, I must have been typing to fast

Now I found a marriage

Sarah Perry born abt 1695? m 7th Jan 1713 to Thomas Tweed
Married in Cheveley
She died abt 1733 in Cheverley

and I wonder could Sarah be a sister of Thomas and John all children of George?

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 December 11 06:56 GMT (UK) »
This is just a possible link for George Perry that I found on ancestry, what is the likely hood it is the correct George??

George Perry bp 21 JAN 1670/71 in Steeple Morden, Cambridgeshire, England

He is listed as son of George Perry and a Mary Saby, they had the following children

1. Mary Perry b. 1663

2. John Perry b. 1665

3. Thomas Perry b. 1669

4. George Perry b. 1670 as mentioned

5. Henry Perry b. 1672

6. Elizabeth Perry b. 1675


The above 6 were all born in Steeple Morden, Cambridgeshire, England is this far from Cheveley?

I am not entirely sure the above George Perry born in 1670 would be the one having children in Cheveley around 1700, can anyone prove or disprove the possibility?

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #15 on: Monday 05 December 11 07:17 GMT (UK) »

The above 6 were all born in Steeple Morden, Cambridgeshire, England is this far from Cheveley?

Have you tried Google maps? 35 miles
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #16 on: Monday 05 December 11 07:30 GMT (UK) »

Sarah Perry born abt 1695? m 7th Jan 1713 to Thomas Tweed
Married in Cheveley
She died abt 1733 in Cheverley

and I wonder could Sarah be a sister of Thomas and John all children of George?


Anything on the LDS site that says "about" means that whoever submitted the entry simply doesn't know. So whilst the 1713 marriage is OK, being taken from an extracted entry on the IGI, her birth and death are nothing more than speculation. She might be a sister of John and Thomas, daughter of George, but there's no baptism on the IGI. On the other hand she might have been a 60 year old widow when she married in 1713.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #17 on: Monday 05 December 11 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

Selina can you list the full baptism dates?


They're extracted onto the IGI at www.familysearch.org
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell