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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi I think Suffolk is the key but I can't find any suitable entries on line, will have to get access to the OPR, thanks for everyone's help thus far.

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 10 December 11 11:18 GMT (UK) »
As previously shown

Thomas Tweed in 1713 m Sarah Perry, both of them being widows.

It seems Joseph Tweed was a son of Thomas Tweed via his first wife

In 1762 the newspaper article says Thomas Perry and Joseph Tweed were brothers.

Here is what I think, Sarah Perry who married 1713 Thomas Tweed, Sarah was actually the widow of George Perry of Cheveley. This makes sense by placing Joseph Tweed and Thomas Perry as brothers.

It would mean George Perry of Cheveley died abt 1712 but bef 1713.

Thomas Tweed was a tailor and taught the Perry boys the trade

Does anyone have a baptism for Joseph Tweed?

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 10 December 11 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Joseph son of Thomas (sen) and Sarah Tweed was baptised at Cheveley on 27th December 1814.

Unfortunately does not mention the trade of Thomas.

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 10 December 11 16:10 GMT (UK) »
hi, if john perry was a master jockey cap maker you could try the horse racing museum in newmarket, they might have some info on him,,,,,, nancy
martin, bailey,moore,east/bell,spurge,bourn,   -     perry,missen,grant,casey,ayling,  to name a few


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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 10 December 11 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Good idea Nancy!

Just to clear up any possible date confusion - I should have given the date of the marriage of Sarah Perry and Thomas Tweed as 7 January 1713/14 as if you take into account the calendar change in 1752 it took place in 1714.

An Elizabeth Tweed wife of Thomas sen. was buried 14 August 1713 at Cheveley.

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 10 December 11 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Selina thanks for the baptism of Joseph Tweed. This is even better as Thomas Perry & Joseph Tweed have the same mother. So we can be sure George Perry died abt 1712. I am going to see if SOG has more BDM on this and will send my researcher there.

Hi Nancy, good idea on that racing museum, sadly they want 36GBP an hour for research, kind of on the steep side. I am trying to see if my researcher can go there and wave the 36GBP fee. If anyone knows this museum the address is NATIONAL HORSERACING MUSEUM, 99 HIGH ST, NEWMARKET, SUFFOLK, CB8 8JH. Maybe someone closer can pop in there and ask about Thomas Perry, Joseph Tweed and especially John Perry first maker of Jockey caps.   

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 10 December 11 22:14 GMT (UK) »
The George Perry that was buried at Cheveley in 1708 which I mentioned in reply #20 is the only George Perry burial in the Cheveley parish register.

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 10 December 11 22:26 GMT (UK) »
The George Perry that is buried 1708 I think this has to be the father of Thomas and John.

Selina, here is another piece to the puzzle

In 1762 the newspaper says Thomas Perry's daughter is Sarah Watkins, in 1791 John Perry says his nephew is a John Lake Watkins who was already deceased and his widow was named Elizabeth.

Can you find the spouses name for Sarah Perry ? Watkins and a possible marriage for them? Also possible baptism of John Lake Watkins?

In his will John Perry mentions another nephew

I direct my Executors to pay to my Nephew, Mr John Price, Mariner in his Majestys Navy, the Sum of Twenty Pounds which I have of his in my Custody

As yet I don't know how John Price fits in. There must also be a Perry & Price connection, can u locate possible parents of John Price? Thanks

 

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Re: Perry of Cambridge 1674 & 1753
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 10 December 11 22:40 GMT (UK) »
On the racing museum site, I found this text and you can bet the 1783 black cap was made by John Perry

The Royal colours have undergone little alteration over more than two centuries as can be seen by those of Queen Elizabeth II which closely resemble the crimson waistcoat, purple sleeves and black cap worn registered by the Prince of Wales in 1783.