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Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« on: Sunday 27 November 11 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Would like to hear from any relations of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw and his wife Mary (maiden name Jackson) - my g g. aunt. Thomas (1850-1930) and Mary (1853-1909) were both born in Argyllshire, Scotland. Thomas's father John was a farmer. Mary's father, also John, was a shoe maker. Thomas and Mary moved to the north of England and were married in Newcastle in 1880. Thomas then established himself in business as a draper in the Durham area. Thomas and Mary went on to have the following children: John (1882), Neil (1883), Albion(?) Mary (1883), Thomas Alex. (1886), Alison May (188?), Flora Jane (1888), Allan (1895) and Finlay (1898). Would like to know what happened to the children. Also, relating to the link below, wondering if anybody knows what may have happened to Mary's elder brother Finlay. Hoping somone might have some anecdotal information. that could help me solve this particular brick wall.





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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 November 11 23:33 GMT (UK) »
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Would like to know what happened to the children

Have you checked freebmd for marriages/deaths

Have you checked the 1911 census for an update on them
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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 11 00:20 GMT (UK) »
It seems Albion Mary 1883 and Alison May 188? are the same person

Here are the birth reg's FreeBMD (if you have correct y.o.b. then it is easier to find death reg's
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Birth reg's -all in Sunderland reg district
John Malcolm Shaw Jun qtr 1881 10a 714
Alison May Shaw mar qtr 1883 10a 602
Thomas Alexander Shaw Sept qtr 1885 10a 593
Flora jane Shaw Jun qtr 1887 10a 617
Neil Shaw Sept qtr 1890 10a 649
Allan Shaw Dec qtr 1894 10a 641
Finlay Shaw Dec qtr 1897 10a 643

Flora jane and Neil are not at home with parents 1901-so maybe you should start by looking for them in 1901 census -or death reg's??

Looks like Neil died

Death reg FreeBMD Neil Shaw age 1 Dec qtr 1891 Sunderland 10a 441

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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 11 05:30 GMT (UK) »
Finlay Shaw born 19 SEP 1897, (source RAF Officer Records). Then 2nd Lt. (in which service??) and on 1 May 1919 he left service. Birth registered Sunderland Dec Qtr. 1897). 1901/1911 Censuses  living in Sunderland. Finlay Shaw (35) married 4 OCT 1932 to Jean Paterson (30) first marriage for both, Calcutta, Bengal India. Fathers - Thomas Edward Alexander (sic) Allan Shaw and Robert Paterson.

The following were born/baptized  to Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw/Mary all in Monkwearmouth, Sunderland.

John Malcolm Shaw bap. 17 MAR 1881, (St. Peter's - only bap. so indicated)
Allison May Shaw born 18 JAN 1883, bap. 25 FEB 1883
Thomas Alexander Shaw born 6 AUG 1885, bap. 6 SEP 1885. 


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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 11 09:15 GMT (UK) »
It seems Albion Mary 1883 and Alison May 188? are the same person

Albion Mary is the Ancestry transcription of this:
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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 11 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Finlay Shaw is mentioned in the London Gazette Supplement 13 June 1946. He and many others both British and Indians were given various degrees of the "Knight Grand Cross",  The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Finlay Shaw, Workshop Engineer, The Madras Electric Tramway Company Limited and lately Honorary Rescue Officer of the ARP, Madras. Page 2793, Supplement to the London Gazette, 13 JUN 1946. King George VI, Birthday Honours. The Indians complained about the company repatriating profits back to Britain and in 1953 the tramway was closed. Finlay may had left India then.

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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 November 11 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Your Albion looks like Allison to me

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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 November 11 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all for your replies. I think I need to give my brain a rest. Can't possibly think where I got the 'Albion Mary' entry from. It is quite clearly Alison May. With information received I can make further progress investigating the Shaw family. Any more information is still most welcome. Thanks again.

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Re: Family of Thomas Edward Angus Allan Shaw, Durham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 November 11 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Can't possibly think where I got the 'Albion Mary' entry from.

You must have got it from Ancestry - that's their transcription of Allison May in 1891 (reply #4)
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