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Re: William WEBB - what happened to him?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Mmmm - interesting.

Are there any other documents for a life in Tasmania - census? burial record showing age? etc

I need to explore this further.

I also need to explore the William Webb entries under these search options on Anc*stry.  If anyone has a worldwide membership can they please help me as mine is only a uk membership and won't let me look at these!

australian convict transportation registers other fleets & ships 1791-1868
nsw & tasmania , australia convict musters 1806-149
nsw & tasmania , australia convict pardons & tickets of leave 1834-1859

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Re: William WEBB - what happened to him?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 08 December 11 08:20 GMT (UK) »
I have already posted all the information from the commercial site that you asked to be looked up - that's where I got the information from.  :D

I have some concerns as to whether the William Webb who was given permission to marry Caroline BAYLISS is the one you are seeking.  Your William Webb had already given the information that he was married when he was transported; often this is mentioned in 'permission to marry' records.  He is also listed as 'free' in the column giving the ship of arrival.  He had a conditional pardon but was not necessarily 'free'.  However these are only thoughts and it well may be the correct person.

Caroline BAYLISS was convicted of 'larceny from the person' at Warwickshire Quarter Sessions (Birmingham boro') 17 March, 1852.  Sentenced to 14 years.  (Source: All England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892)

Her voyage date was 25 Nov 1852, on the Duchess of Northumberland but obviously not the same voyage as William WEBB.  Her conditional pardon (Tasmania)  is recorded on 3 June 1857. Sources: New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave, 1834-1859, Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868.

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Re: William WEBB - what happened to him?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 08 December 11 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Judith

I will have to try and get a copy of those Anc*stry documents to support my research.

You certainly seem to know alot more than i do about these situations and when considering what you have said and the fact that i have found a William Webb heading from Launceston to Melbourne on the 'Shamrock' steamer on 17th April 1850, whose ship to the colony was the Duchess of Northumberland it makes me think that he may have been heading to Australia!

Not sure where to look now though!

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Re: William WEBB - what happened to him?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 December 11 23:00 GMT (UK) »
It seems to me that the passenger to Melbourne is a more likely candidate for your man than the marrying one.  Would have been good if he had a second name LOL  :D

You may find a municipal library that has a world-wide sub for A*****, that you can use for free.  Ours does which is great if I need it.  I just have the Aus and the lowest level UK so there are times when having access to the wider version is useful.

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Re: William WEBB - what happened to him?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 December 11 02:32 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage notice for the WEBB/BAYLISS marriage in 1854 in Tasmania.  It seems that Caroline was already trying to cover her tracks.  From the information given in her convict indent I think it more likely that she was the daughter of Thomas BAYLISS and Rosannah KENDRICK of Birmingham, not John BAYLISS Esq. of London.  She had a daughter Rosannah on board with her when she was transported.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0i7a/

Even though there was nothing to stop him from returning to Tas and marrying, I also think that he would be more likely found in Victoria.  There are a number of deaths which could be him, but with no parents named on the indexes, so even if you purchased the certs they may not give you enough info to identify him.

Debra  :D