darby cox - GRIFFITHS EVALUATION

[kevshe]

hi,

After buying a marriage certificate for my ancestor Christopher cox (born approx 1817 Ireland married Eliza Alcock in Manchester 1840 - she was born in Waterford approx 1817), I have found his father was called Darby Cox and he was a labourer.

I cannot find any birth/marriage etc results on several sites (such as ancestry and familysearch) EXCEPT for two Darby Cox's on the Griffiths evaluation and the Tithe appointment books (one in Roscommon the other in Leitrim).

My question is - Are these two types of sources very comprehensive - or, in other words, would every Darby Cox who was renting a property appear on the Griffiths evaluation and Tithe sources?  Would a ordinary person like a labourer even appear on these sources or would it just be people with businesses or farms etc?

thanks for reading

[shanew147]

If your Darby Cox was renting/leasing property in his own name at the time of Griffith's (1847 to 1864 depending on the area) then he would probably appear - but not everybody did. e.g. A son living on the property of his father (or vice versa), or uncle, would not appear separately. Certain occupations often dont appear - e.g. soldiers, coastguards, policemen, staff working in estates/big houses and living in provided accomodation  etc

Tithe records dont cover all areas - e.g. it doesn't cover towns, or exempted properties.

Note: both ancestry and familysearch only have limited collections of pre-civil registration records for Ireland.


Shane

[aghadowey]

Darby is often a nickname used for Jeremiah or Dermot/Diarmuid.

[kevshe]

thanks for replies - didn't know about the other names for darby - will try those

Also, if familysearch/ancestry etc not great for pre-37 irish searches, which is the best site for bmd in those earlier years?

thanks

[shanew147]

thanks for replies - didn't know about the other names for darby - will try those

Also, if familysearch/ancestry etc not great for pre-37 irish searches, which is the best site for bmd in those earlier years?

thanks

Full civil registration started in Ireland in 1864 - see :

  Introduction to Irish Records

You need to know the location, ideally the parish or townland, and denomination involved so you can first check what records might be available.


Shane

[shanew147]

Just to follow up on further details on inclusion of Griffith's :

Note that for the country at large, Griffith’s Valuation was a relatively comprehensive listing of house and landholders, ranging as it did from the smallest cabin or garden to the largest house or estate.

Yet for cities and large towns, the Valuation is quite limited as a genealogical source, in that it tended to list only landlords or principal householders in the case of houses occupied by a number of families.

Sample analysis shows that only about 20% of heads of families are listed in the case of Dublin city, while an average of about 70% of heads of families are included for the country at large...

(extract from Primer to Irish Genealogy by Sean J Murphy)


Shane