Father of John HAYDON Crediton Devon born 1746

[HOLLYTREE]

Hi everyone, I have been using ancestry.co.uk website to trace my family.  I am tracing the Thomas Sharland/Ann Haydon line.  There seems to be two opinions on the father of John Haydon 1746 Crediton spouse Sarah Glandvill.  Some go with father being Nathaniel Haydon 1700-1773 and some with John Haydon 1715 married to either Sarah Edwards or Rachel Edbury both 1715.   Both of these men seem to go back to the same line i.e. Robert Haydon of Ottery St Mary 1595-1646.   

I'm also really looking for confirmation that my 4th gt grandfather Thomas Sharland 1769-1851 Crediton was married to Ann Haydon 1772-1855 and she was in fact the daugher of John Haydon 1746.   Thank you for any advice and help anyone has to offer, 

[tazzie]

 There is this marriage from extracted records on the IGI site (old version i hate the new layout)

  Thomas Sharland to Ann Haydon 1st Apr 1794 at Stockleigh English Devon


   Tazzie

[HOLLYTREE]

Thanks Tazzie, I didn't have any ref to their marriage so that's great to know, no clues about the other questions I suppose ?

[pinefamily]

Having experienced Devon records myself, the best advice I can offer is for you to access the parish registers through the LDS. Devon records are not well represented online, and even through the LDS microfilm system, coverage can be scanty.
However, I see Crediton is covered with a microfilm of PR transcripts 1558-1843. Go to your nearest LDS family history centre, and they will guide you on how to order in the film.
Have you any confirmation on John Haydon being from Crediton? The IGI listing is only a submitted entry, and these should be treated with extreme caution. You probably need to confirm the Crediton connection before wading through a microfilm.

Darren

[Annette7]

Since the trees on Ancestry are only members submitted trees I would at this stage take both suggestions with a pinch of salt!

Crediton PR's are on familysearch for the relevant time period - although there are children listed there for both couples there are no John's for either couple in 1742 or 1746 as the trees suggest (there's one in 1739 to another couple).   Note - none of the trees I looked at had baptism dates either.  I suggest maybe a lot of guesswork here with trees being copied by others.

I think you need to do as pinefamily suggests and check for yourself.  I suspect that John may have come from elsewhere.

Annette

[pinefamily]

I see on familysearch that John Haydon and Sarag Glandvill married in Newton St Cyres.
That might be your first place to check, to see if it gives a parish for him.

[HOLLYTREE]

Thanks pinefamily and annette7 this is what I have managed to find on familysearch:

I have John Haydon as born 1746 but eventually found John Haydon baptised 8th Feb 1739 Crediton son (I think) of John Haydon 1715 baptised 25th Sept 1715 and Rachel Edbury 1715 marriage 30th Jan 1738.   

Using familysearch I think this John Haydon married Sarah Glandvill (website states John and Rachel are parents) and these were Ann Haydon's parents. 

John Haydon 1715 was baptised 25th Sept 1715 and has George Haydon and Mary listed as his parents. 

[pinefamily]

Because of the different parishes, you must treat that information with caution, especially those entries that are submitted. The entries that have the following: "Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date", are from original sources, and can be accepted as true. However, I would be cautious in selecting entries from different parishes without looking at the original records, because you might find that for example, the John Haydon baptised in 1739 in Crediton might turn out to be an infant death. Burials are mostly not on the IGI.
Now, I am not suggesting you aren't on the right track, but the sources need to be checked to verify your research.

Darren

[HOLLYTREE]

Hi Darren, thank you for your reply, after extensively searching George Haydon who was married in Crediton to Mary Ward on 16th Sept 1713 I can not find any record of baptism or christening anywhere in the country.   Would it be normal to be married but not have a record of baptism at all ?